HD Broadcasting

But fortunately in the case of QLD, it’s one of the few occasions that this would arise.

Other posts in the Nine News threads have indicated Nine News Brisbane will go HD soon anyhow,

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As time goes by I’m sure there will be fewer up conversions on all channels. Hopefully they also ditch the 4:3 aspect movies from the library.

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Which is why the slow return of ABC HD was so bad. Here was an opportunity to show the biggest group of doubters (older demos) that HD is superior and all it showed for weeks was upconverted content. At least it’s all in the past and ABC HD looks magnificent now.

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I hope they don’t. The Wizard of Oz, Casablanca and other classic movies were filmed in 4:3 as they were made before widescreen was around, but they are available in high definition.

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I wonder if they will ever crop those 4:3 movies to make them widescreen?

Hopefully not, they did this with Seinfeld and I didn’t like it as I knew I wasn’t seeing the full picture.

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I’ve been looking at the bit rates on the various multiplexes and I believe that the networks can fit in more HD broadcasts now without shutting down any legacy MPEG2 format.

My thinking is that a 720p HD MPEG4 broadcast would be suitable for a multichannel. Looking into the numbers, 720p needs fewer bits to be transmitted per second plus more importantly the progressive stream apparently compresses better. I think that a 2.5 - 2.8 Mbps 720p stream would provide a quality HD channel.

So if we took Nine’s multiplex in Brisbane tonight 9HD in 1080i is running at 3.26 Mbps.

The other channels are
9SD 4.0
9Go 3.3
9Gem 3.3
9Life 3.8

So all that needs to happen is 0.625 - 0.7 reduction in bit rate for each channel to give 2.5 - 2.8.

In the case of SBS, SBS HD is currently running 7.5 (MPEG2) so they could replace that with 3 x 720p HD channels without having to adjust the bit rates for any of the SD channels.

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Are broadcasting encoders really good enough these days that you can broadcast three 720p MPEG2-HD channels on a multiplex at 2.5-3.0mbps without it becoming all pixelated/blurry every five seconds?

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They would be 720p MPEG 4 - 9HD is currently running at 3.2 1080i whithout too many complaints so I think it is realistic.

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As I understand it, networks can accommodate 23 M/bits per second of data on each channel.
The streams you’ve listed there add up to approx 17.7 M/bits.
Can see you where the other 5.3 has gone?

Some small amounts of data might be taken up by closed captions and EPG info, but as I don’t think there’s any error correction used in DVB-T, there’s no slideshows (both of which accounts for space in DAB+ Radio), and there’s no EPG channel anymore.

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Some of it will be used by the audio channels aswell.

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The various audio channels add up to approx 3.7 and Extra is 1.8 for video

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I’ve noticed that too, Nine SD via WIN at times looks terrible, but funny enough Seven SD & other channels looks okay.

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Good news so far on the 7HD front for Sydney (and I’m guessing Bris and Perth as well)…

In that my EPG is still showing 7HD will remain as the main channel for most of next week (at least).

So will be good to see Seven’s big guns eg. MKR in HD for the first time in these parts :grinning:

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Are you saying 7HD is still there after the tennis has finished? When does the AFL season begin again?

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Didn’t Seven switch back early last time so that the pre-season matches were shown on 7bogan HD? :smiling_imp:

Seven’s HD channel wasn’t in MPEG4 this time last year…

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Will that make a difference?
After they switch back are they going to have two 7bogans, 576i MPEG2 & 1080i MPEG4?
Of course I’d prefer 7HD remained and 7flix & 7bogan were MPEG4 (perhaps 720p?) but I don’t see Seven changing what they’re doing.

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Yeah, me neither.

Personally I’d prefer to have Seven’s main channel here in Sydney on a permanent basis (even though not much of Seven’s programing appeals to me in general), but I suppose that 7Bogan…I mean, 7mate is “The Best Channel In The World Ever” and that any TV station with such a title deserves to be seen in full 1080i HD. :rolling_eyes:

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