WIN News

I believe the viewers in northern NSW are strongly opposed to having a WIN presence in that area.

And I think those viewers could have been a factor behind NBN accepting a nine take over rather than WIN takeover because they are very frightened they could lose access to local news.

Personally I cannot see WIN ever making a presence in the northern NSW market.

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I dislike WIN as much as the next Media Spy member, but would like to see some genuine evidence that backs up that statement!

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WiN has tried to buy NRN in the past, but NBN put a big hurdle on those plans. I canno see it changing anytime soon.

“1990 saw plans for NRTV to be merged with southern Queensland’s Vision TV to form one super regional network to respond to the growing aggregation of television into regional areas of the nation, but they were called off. On 31 December 1991, Northern New South Wales became the third area to be aggregated, and NRTV, via links to Network Ten (it was part of Northern Star Holdings, owned by Westfield Group chairman Frank Lowy), became its affiliate in the region. At one stage, NRTV was the subject of a bid from WIN Television. Nothing came of it, although if WIN had gone through with the bid, it would have made NRTV the Nine Network’s affiliate (using the logos of its parent station in southern NSW and the campaigns of the Nine Network) and left an unhappy NBN as Network Ten’s affiliate instead in the area.”

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no.

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  1. Don’t rely on Wikipedia as a source particularly when there are slabs of text unattributed to any genuine sources.
  2. Things are a lot different now compared to the 1990s. NBN is now owned by 9, SCA is now looking at maintaining a Ten presence unlike the rest of their eastern states network, and WIN is now losing 9 as its major affiliate partner. Don’t base any assumptions now on something that may or may not have happened 20 years ago.
  3. How did NBN put a hurdle on those plans anyway?
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WIN probably need to take a big risk though, I don’t think some newspaper ads can turn around their fortunes.

About the only other direction I can think would be vastly increasing AFL coverage - to the point of essentially having a half hour news and then half hour nightly Footy Show - given that’s all that seems to rate on WIN in Tassie.

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Win news wagga produce a video for YouTube with corey hammond with interviews and scores from games using win resources. I wonder if any changes will effect that

I believe the viewers in northern NSW are strongly opposed to having a WIN presence in that area.

And I think those viewers could have been a factor behind NBN accepting a nine take over rather than WIN takeover because they are very frightened they could lose access to local news.

Huh? 99% of viewers have not even noticed that NBN has essentially changed their name and brand to Channel 9.

They absolutely would not have a clue or care if WIN/Nine or NBN owns the station.

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The newspaper promo as I mentioned earlier:

[quote=“KICK-IT, post:257, topic:214”]
They would be better off buying advertising for WIN News online on on radio[/quote]I’m not sure how long they have been doing it for, but I have heard ads at random times before promoting their News through 7HOFM (mind you, they attract a very small audience [listeners] much like WIN do so that’s not really going to help them out too much in reality).

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WIN should try going all out as local to Hobart - treat it as a capital city news bulletin, and focus on a local angle to Hobart. A live shot of Hobart in the background rather than the generic studio, promos about being Hobart’s news, made in Hobart for Hobart. [/quote]In many ways they’ve already tried that angle of being the extreme heavily Hobart-focused local bulletin in the past (even complete with a keyed image of the city as their ‘set’), but it didn’t work very well so they backtracked. Not to mention when WIN axed their weekend bulletins a few years back that Southern Cross capitalised on that small opportunity they left open and went more Hobart focused which has made them considerably more dominate in the south of the state in recent years instead (so effectively they beat WIN at their own game from a year or so earlier).

[quote=“ando9185, post:261, topic:214, full:true”]It’s interesting because even after 20 years there’s still a feel that WIN is south focused and SC is north focused, even when the SC weather shot is always the Hobart webcam or half the bulletin comes from the Hobart studio regularly.[/quote]That’s a fallacy these days. Since when WIN axed their bulletins SC have really pulled up their socks and are in many ways a more southern Tasmania focused News service than a northern one IMO.

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I agree but there’s still a feel for it in the north at times, that’s great though if the south feels like it’s statewide then Southern Cross really are kicking goals to have the state united! It’s interesting though because WIN have certainly tried to make a push across the state over the years including their original Six O’Clock with Penny Tame bulletins having separate north and south bulletins before being a statewide one and then becoming WIN Local News until they were axed around 2005/6. It was certainly a big effort they put in but I guess just didn’t translate to viewers.

Newsreader wise too they’ve had many names over the years including some from Southern Cross with Judy Benson for a while and then Peter Hughes coming from years at the ABC.

I’ve got no answers for what WIN should do in Tas, but I think they’ve certainly tried over the years and given things a reasonable crack.

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WIN has stated all 16 local news services are staying.

My guess is

5pm Ten Eyewitness News
6pm WIN News
6.30 The Project

Family Fued stays on 11 and One

Perfect outcome!

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Interesting to know if they’ll put WIN News on 6pm in Queensland though.

Seven Local News is already at 6pm and Nine Newshour (or whatever it’ll be called) is rumoured to be starting at 6pm as well. Seven Local News is also repeated on 7TWO at 6.30pm.

Seems a bit overkill but I guess we’ll find out in July.

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Competition is a wonderful thing. It will drive quality.

I can’t see where else WIN will put WIN News other than 6.

They have stated they are keeping Ten News. So that goes at 5.

The only other possible option I see is WIN News at 5, Ten News delayed at 5.30
But then you have WIN News (it’s pride and brand and expensive production) outside of primetime where less people watch TV. You also have a delayed hour long news stretching over the 6pm hour - which is a huge TV switch on Time

WIN News at 6 makes sense.

I think we will see some serious beefed up advertising. Something tells me the new Nine/SC bulletins are going to be a bit slick - WIN may have to react,.

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Or the other option is keep it at 7pm?

Carrie or Waleed could do a daily pre-recorded breakaway for WIN viewers “…and that’s where we leave The Project, join us now for WIN News”? Would have to be timed perfectly so it doesn’t cut half way through an interview or whatever I guess.

And what if they had a huge guest or interview booked for the second half that had been promoted all day and teased throughout the show.

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Too bad for WIN viewers :open_mouth:

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They usually go to air at 7:27, so they could hypothetically run a bulletin from 7:00-7:25 and then cut back.

ten metro can keep FF at 6 and for regional win news at 6

Of course it will stay, but for how long that’s the question?

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Whilst Win’s revenue will drop with lower ratings the % of revenue they have to pay out for Programming will also drop significantly.

Right now WIN pays Nine 40% of the revenue they book in WIN News. So they have production costs then of the ad revenue they book they pay half out to Nine

This was a bone for WIN. So if they were able
To negotiate with Ten that they 35% of revenue for ten programming - but for win news they get to keep 100% - win news just became very viable

Add that to the two points above - and there is no real reason to axe the local news services