Sydney vs Melbourne rivalry

Melbourne’s already bigger than Sydney if you don’t count the central coast as part of Sydney

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I thought this summed up that report pretty well…

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I think “culture” is hard to define and overall very subjective. Is it art galleries? Concerts? Cafes? Sport? Melbourne claims to be the cultural capital but on what basis or measures?

I thought the article was referring to culture as in bacteria, tissue cells and viruses.

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The fact that someone thinks Sydney’s lack of culture can be fixed with a marketing campaign, is peak Sydney culture in itself.

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And the road to Sydney is the best thing to come out of Melbourne :rofl:

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You lot do know that Tasmania is slowing pulling closer to the mainland & the reason why is “Melbourne Sux” :rofl:

On a serious note I’d take Brisbane over the other two any day :ok_hand: It’s not as cold & much more chilled than the other two

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I do find it strange that Melbourne and Sydney are allowed to put one another down, but soon as another state (or city) gets involved, they both seem to defend each other. There does seem to be a mutual underlying respect between the big two.

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I agree with this. There are A LOT worse places in the world to be than Melbourne or Sydney.

I’d say that Melbourne can claim to be the cultural capital because of its ability to secure large scale international art exhibitions (through the Melbourne Winter Masterpieces series). Melbourne’s annual comedy festival is the second largest comedy festival in the world, and the city also has an annual writers festival.

I also notice Sydney and Melbourne often fight it out for the Australian premiere of musicals (e.g. Hamilton, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child).

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And other things - like various racing events.

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Wonder if they will fight over me now that im back home in Australia.

When i first went to Sydney a month or so before I left to live in the UK, i think i was ovwrwhelmed by the large city ifself. Some of the people were rude but i do get the impression that some Sydney think Sydney is the only city in Australia. I definetly prefer Perth for its relaxed nature and dont follow the trends that other states do. I love Melbourne for their variety of multiculture and shopping experience.

I have even been impressed with the toilets in Melbourne. Come to myer in Perth and you will see the downward standard that it reeks of.

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I do think Sydneysiders are not as friendly as those in other cities, retail assistants here (where I am at the moment) for instance usually don’t even say hello when you are being served.

Sydney is fast becoming an unworkable megalopolis, part of the reason I left. The traffic appears to be much worse than in similar sized cities in the US (such as Seattle/Tacoma/Bellevue), probably due to underinvestment in infrastructure. Two lanes each way on the M7 for example, is manifestly inadequate; the I5 through Seattle is as wide as 4/5 lanes each way at times.

(I am watching a dash cam from San Diego to Vancouver at the moment).

As an aside, the traffic even through San Francisco and LA (on a weekday peak!) appeared to be no worse than in Sydney. That says something.

Climate in Sydney is another issue; too hot out west and too humid near the coast. At least San Francisco, Seattle and even parts of coastal LA have a better climate with reliably cool seabreezes in summer. California has a very cool ocean current which keeps humidity low, despite the incessant sunshine. Sydney is ‘blessed’ with tropical waters offshore.

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Public transport in Sydney is overpriced and shit which doesn’t help

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Are you really gonna be that creepy dude who complains that the teenage girls serving you aren’t cheerful enough?

I think everyone who’s ever had to serve customers in a shop (myself included) just cringed pretty damn hard.

A close friend of mine had lived in Sydney for about 40 years or so (coming to Sydney from overseas as a migrant) before moving further out but commuting back to Sydney from time to time for work

He said Sydney feels like a city that’s designed for one million people but has several times that much crammed into it. That’s exactly how I feel when I’m in Sydney (which is rare, I hate Sydney)

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Who said teenage girls? I’m only cringing at you.

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As a former (long-serving) retail assistant myself, I welcome your disapproval.