But that’s exactly the point, the presenter DOESN’T chat to the journo 99% of the time. They say “Mark Riley is in New York” or “Chris Reason was in court today” before a hard cut, no chatting, no split screen, no transition graphics, nothing.
And none of the bulletins use the word “live” in the opener AFAIK (Melbourne used to but not since the new openers IIRC).
“Live from our Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane headquarters, this is Seven News…”
Baaah, I could have sworn it was just “from…” but you’re correct, sorry.
Anyway, the daytime bulletins (which is where this style of report is actually used) don’t use the word “live” and the reporters aren’t at HQ anyway (or is that just more misleading conduct by 7?!?)
To re-quote one of my favourite quotes relating to Australian TV:
“Is that literally true that there is no body else in the entire world that knows news like your channel?”
Yeah, Seven’s Sydney headquarters are actually at Pyrmont or around that area if I’m not mistaken.
Anyway, I suspect that they get away with the “Live from our Sydney headquarters…” VO in the 6pm Openers because it sounds more impressive to your typical viewer who probably just assumes that the news studios in their city are always the network HQ without any second thought.
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Seven recording another pretend ‘live’ cross – his fake nodding is interrupted though:[/quote]
Talking about the recording of ‘live’ crosses, I’m a little surprised Seven do seperate ones for Southern Cross Tasmania. The Seven reporters mention the SC presenters name as they cross and then again as they cross back. Not that it would be any big deal to them I wouldn’t have thought but still…
As for WIN, Nine never did any seperate one for them and Ten don’t either. Whenever WIN do a live or ‘live’ cross they either edit out the first couple of seconds to remove with the parts where reporter mentions the names of who they’re originally talking to (which is usually done very poorly I might add), or they just leave it as it was originally aired which comes off looking really dumb - i.e. when Brent Costelloe from WIN does a ‘live’ cross to Ten’s Rob Waters (or whoever) at the MCG when they cut to him, instead of Rob saying "That’s right Brent or “Thanks Brent” etc. it comes across as to when he’s actually talking to Brad McEwan, as in “That’s right Brad” etc. unfortunately there’s no Brad though! 
Out of your two options - the first. Why would you even assume that anyone, including me, would find that second form controversial in the slightest? It simply introduces the replaying of a report.
A ‘chat’ indicates two way communication. When a reporter does a fake nod, whilst the presenter is asking a question, that indicates live conversation - it is deceptive.
I don’t know what a DA or TA are, people employed in the media should use plain English when communicating - that includes not using acronyms when not necessary.
I feel like me and some posters here are on two different planets. I am obviously not referring to a presenter simply saying Mike Riley was in New York today and filed this report earlier. Obviously.
If the pre recorded journo is in two-way boxes and nodding as the presenter introduces them, then yes that is misleading, but if the presenter introduces them then it cuts to some nodding before speaking I don’t see the deception.
Directors Assistant and Technical Assistant.
Tomorrow 7 News will cover the US Presidential debate live from 11.00 am AEST - 12:30 pm
http://forums.mediaspy.org/t/us-presidential-election/1886/3?u=tv.cynic
A 30 minute “Afternoon News” bulletin will follow.
Well then what are you referring to? In the vast majority of cases there is no question asked, simply a hard cross.
If you want to rage about pretend live crosses then you should be over in The Project’s thread.
Possibly responding to Nine News’ “Gold Coast” corner logo addition?
It’ll be interesting to see if the Regional QLD bulletins do something similar.
And a new backdrop?
I know the line is clearly visabale, but does it look like the screens need recalibrating too? The top one seems darker than the bottom, or I need to get my eyes checked.
Considering most free to air news bulletins are filled with live crosses and split screens, then I’d say the first format is used many more times than the second format.
Regardless, I find the second format deceitful too. Why on earth is the reporter nodding silently at the beginning of a live cross, if not to imply that he is, at that moment, listening to the tail end of what the presenter is asking?
Cool. To the layman, these are simply producers. They are individuals who have direct, behind the scenes input, into the production of the bulletin.
You know what I’m referring to - it’s very obvious. I’ll spell it out for you again.
A reporter, who performs a head nod (to give the appearance of listening at that point in time) to a presenter’s question or statement, which in fact has not even been asked yet, is deceiving viewers.
Your statement that in the “vast majority of cases there is no question asked” doesn’t even make sense. We are specifically discussing the use of a head nod by a reporter to imply something is live when it is not. I’ve said x% of times this format is used, it is deceitful. You’ve replied by telling my y% is not deceitful. No shit. I’m not talking about y%, because we’re talking about x%.
Lastly, I’m not raging about anything. You don’t have to pretend not to understand my statement simply because you like Channel 7 (as indicated by your Ch 7 avatar). Also, I count The Project as having the same value as a fart, so I’m definitely not heading over to that thread to say anything.
So many major news orgs including CNN, 7 News and NBC do this @Firetorch - let;s accept it and move on…
I’ve already said that. It was my very first comment on the topic.
I accept that it is standard practice. I accept that it is deceptive. I moved on ages ago.
Much more important matters to discuss here, obviously.
Now, who presented yesterdays morning news? And how was Sydney’s introductory voiceover slightly different last night? Seven News fanboys, please update us!
