I believe the Seven signal for Griffith, Riverland and South East SA where WIN manages it is sourced directly from Seven and sent to MediaHub where local commercials are put in and sent out to those markets, from what I have seen in the South East, they use the 7 watermarks that look exactly the same as the metro 7’s.
That would be correct. I made this for a friend a while ago to explain MediaHub. Shows the control desk for their Seven and Ten channels.
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It was WIN that offered to negotiate an agreement, but Nine would only accept a deal where WIN were paying more cash to cover their own arses after overspending on sports rights.
That’s one massive huge playout room in media hub. Well new channels can easily be added to those markets. But that would be up to WIN of course to add them.
Is it MPEG 4 ready?
That’s just one workstation. The facility itself is huge. I imagine it would be more than capable of handling MPEG-4 services.
More photos can be seen at the MediaHub photo gallery.
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Why is MPEG4 now being used… when TV’s in Australia started having MPEG4 back in 2009. Should have been rolled out then with the launch of 7Two etc.
There’s not really such a thing as regional IP addresses - some ISPs might narrow them down to the exchange level- but generally you’ll just get your capital city, or even just Sydney no matter what.
https://www.iplocation.net/ will show you how well your location is detectable by websites.
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That link shows that it will tell me my suburb, so aligning it to something like postcode to determine whether 9now will give you your local WIN or NBN stream or not shouldn’t be a problem.
I think the problem for WIN/NBN would be the cost of providing streams for each local market…
It’s massive, so huge. Because media hub is located in Sydney they probably get the seperate feed from each metro station in Sydney and then decide what to do with it.
Is imparja being played out from there as well?
Because then you’d have had people who just bought new sets being unable to see the new channels. And with so few compatible tuners the channels would have few viewers which doesn’t help. At least now a significant share of households are mpeg4 ready.
It was a similar situation when UHF was introduced here. It was a requirement for colour sets made after 1975 but it was 1980 before the first broadcasts began and by then a certain percentage of homes would have had compatible sets.
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I like how you compared it to UHF, it is a very similar comparison.
Yeah, I remember when they changed from Prime7 to 7. They changed the name of the channels from Prime to Seven (I think when they did the first rollout of multichannels (9/10)), and then they changed the feeds from P7 to 7 around the time (within the week I’m pretty sure) when they launched the Seven feeds. I think it took me unaware as well.
Discussed at length earlier in the thread
But how do you restrict it? Locking out by postcode is pointless (its not hard to guess a metro postcode) and geolocation by IP is not accurate enough to determine location between metro and regional
To show how inaccurate this can be, my location will often be listed as Melbourne when I’m 400+ km away in north west Tasmania. Right now, it’s showing me as Waterloo in Sydney instead, even further away. If I’m lucky though it will show me as Glenorchy which is a suburb of Hobart still 300km away though. IP Location can’t differentiate accurately enough between suburbs or regional/metro areas. This has been with both Internode and Foxtel broadband but I’ve also seen the same inaccuracies on countless other clients.
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Doesn’t 9Now ask you to set up a profile to use it that includes a post code and other info?
Yep, they could use that and trust that people put in the right postcode. Interesting though I’ve put in a Tasmanian postcode but it still puts Victoria on the labels. e.g. “Live Now in VIC”
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That’s what you would expect for Tasmania - the closest Nine outlet would be provided.
The number of users who would fake their location to get out of area TV would have to be low. There is simply no other way to localise streams. The design of the app/website can be done so that it relies on a GPS location first and foremost, but falls back on a postcode entry if that feature is turned off or device isn’t GPS compatible.
For the record, my IP address is always assigned from Perth, which is about 600km west of my location. It gets worse in more remote locations.
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