Win coming on 85 & 86 in Regional Victoria yay
Borderline $1.06 billion value on the BRW 2015 rich list for Bruce back when his shareholdings and 2-bit regional TV network were worth more. Will wait with interest to see where he lands this year.
I live in regional Queensland. WIN Land, and I have 2 new ‘Coming Soon’ channels, so is 9LIfe and 9HD coming? I hope! I would assume so as the GO!, GOLD, Gem, 9Life, WINHD, Win and eXtra logos appear. Is this new or am I livening under a rock?
Also channel changes:
8- Regular WIN channel
80- 9 Gem in HD
81- Regular WIN channel (presume it will be the HD channel)
82- Extra
83- GO!
84- GOLD
85- Coming Soon
86-Coming Soon
88- GO!
I believe that the placeholders were first spotted yesterday by viewers in the Illawarra, however it may have taken time for them to broadcast in other regions.
Also, what’s not to say that WIN aren’t planning a reshuffle of the LCNs so they appear to match Nine’s like this…
8: WIN - SD MPEG2
80: WIN HD - HD and most likely MPEG4
81: WIN SD - duplicate of 8
82: 9Gem - SD MPEG2
83: 9Go! - SD MPEG2
84: 9Life - SD and most likely MPEG4
85: Extra - SD and probably MPEG4
86: GOLD - SD and probably MPEG4
88: 9Go! - duplicate of 83
I think you get the general idea…
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The way WIN are talking, both WINHD and 9Life are going to be MPEG4. That’s according to their website. There is a pop in window on the home page
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Full information from WIN was posted above
http://forums.mediaspy.org/t/win-television-win-corporation/55/196?u=tv.cynic
In summary
Some of your existing channel numbers will change and new channels will be added.
WINHD is simulcast with WIN so you’ll still receive the same programs in Standard Definition on WIN.
WINHD & 9Life will use Mpeg 4 technology so will only be available on newer devices.
WINHD and 9Life will not be available until the official launch date. You will need to retune on this date!
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Probably, but WIN might choose to do things differently. Sometimes WIN do things differently.
It may choose to put win HD on 85 and 9 life on 86. The LCN might be different but the service should be similar on a TV level.
I can only hope that WIN can launch WIN now, similar to 9 now if WIN wins the court case against nine.
If WIN deny regional viewers to 9 now, it’s illegal, and very discriminating. There’s no limit on the net that disallows people to view television as long as it’s appropriate and suitable to watch.
If it cannot allow access to 9 now WIN should provide WIN now, similar to 9 now.
WIN can’t provide a WIN Now that is equivalent to 9Now because only Nine owns the streaming rights to its programs. It is the same reason that none of the regional channels have a catch-up service - the metro stations own the rights. The only programs that WIN could put on WIN Now would be WIN produced programming like news. However, If Nine lost the court case I suppose it could licence WIN to provide a full service at a cost of course.
So WIN should agree to allowing Nine to stream WIN’s suite of channels via 9Now to regional IP addresses. Simples.
Or they could just merge when the laws are lifted.
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Yes - so when a regional viewer logged onto 9Now they would get a WIN TV stream with adverts appropriate to their region.
Exactly, and because it’s through a Nine service, I’m guessing the streaming rights shouldn’t be an issue.
I just had a thought cross my mind. How does 9Life, WINHD and 7Flix (plus the rumoured 10HD) play out with MTN-9 (Griffith)?
Does MTN get Racing.com either? If it does, does it fall on LCN 68, or something else (remembering 7Two is/was on 66, and 7mate is/was on 60).
Next time I’m in the area, I’ll have a look, but I just thought there might be a Spy there?
(Side note: I lived in the region until 2013, but still visit it (not often though))
Still no extra channels in Tasmania, well Northern Tasmania at least. Do they still use fibre for distribution or satellite? If fibre, would they be hanging out until Basslink gets repaired as that is one of two fibre links into the state and will be cut and repaired over the coming weeks. I wonder how much Telstra is charging to use their fibre?
The papers say today that WIN and 9 were in talks about WIN being able to stream channels online as well but the deal fell apart. WIN is still going down the legal route.
Nine are probably more worried about the possibilty of city viewers watching WIN rather than Nine than anything else ?
Much as everyone in the bush will hate it, I think Win are within their rights to sue Nine over the streaming. They are paying to broadcast for the Nine’s content, and Nine are coming in to eat their lunch.
At the very least, Nine should pay or credit back WIN for any viewer who are watching online in WIN areas.
I see WIN’S point but they did agree to a new deal knowing this would happen so its not a complete shock. Bruce owns 15% of 9 also its such a confusing situation. Prime don’t seem to be worried that much. Be interesting to see what the courts rule.
The problem for WIN is it’s deal obviously does not include the digital rights to live stream. So they don’t really have a leg to stand on. I mean - live streaming is technology that has existed for years - it’s not like it crept up on WIN. They should have had the foresight to realize that one day this is well within Nine’s rights, and had streaming digital rights written into deals.
If Nine and WIN were unable to agree to terms to allow WIN’s local signals on Nine’s 9Now platform, then Nine is well within rights to stream, nationally. Nine offered the deal. WIN being WIN and basically stuck in the 80s probably didn’t want to pay a fee to be carried on Nine’s platform (which Nine would have spent millions developing)
In the US, NBS, ABC and CBS all live stream. When you go to each networks home page it’s geo targeted to know where you are - and you get your local affiliate feed. So if you are in NYC you get NBC4, if you are in Miami you get NBC6. You are then asked to log in with your cable provider. If you don’t have paid cable - you actually can’t watch!
Each affiliate has done a deal with CBS ABC and NBC for this service to be carried on each networks app and home page. Fox and WB do not offer live stream.
Instead of suing Nine, WIN should be trying to strike a deal to have it’s local signals (all 20 of them) carried on the 9Now app and website. It would be a boon for them - and all those extra eyeballs - they can then monetize.
Instead they don’t strike a deal, loose the opportunity to have their local signals carried - and hand all that money to Nine. Then they sue.
Stupid.
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wow you’re in the past! WB?!!! The CW man! 
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I understand that the 7 network signal for Griffith is sourced by prime. So if that’s the case it’s unlikely that 7flix will be coming anytime soon to that area.
And given that Griffith is a small market WIN can choose to omit new channels in that area as much as it like citing the small adversiting base and small population it serves in that area.
So I think they will be waiting a year or so for the new channels,