I figured you’d have something more intellectual than just Nazi apologism Firetorch 
Sorry. I don’t get sucked into far-left media narratives about NAZIS OOOH!!
It’s just so stupid.
A group of dickheads went out to protest.
Another group of idiots went out to fight them because Nazis.need.to.be.punched.
A final dickhead rammed a car into them.
I’m not interested in any of the three groups of losers. And I’m not sure why Australia should be either.
Also, the Nazis were far-left socialist social-engineering idiots that murdered 7 million people and wanted to invade the whole continent of Europe.
A group of tattooed bogans and rednecks shouting about immigration in North Carolina or wherever, are not Nazis. It’s just so pathetically offensive to even link the two.
I seriously think firetorch is nothing but a cold-hearted troll. Hate to break it to you mate, but just because the NSDAP has the word "socialist’ in its title, doesn’t mean it actually was. Nazis have never been ‘far-left’ and the ‘socialist’ part derives from ‘Völkisch’ i.e populism. Their economic policy bares no resemblance to Socialism as a whole and as for their social policy…well…everyone knows.
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Sorry, you don’t bamboozle me. The Nazis sort to redefine socialism in a way antithetical to capitalism - government controlled economic and (as you say) social engineering is the very definition of LEFT-WING politics.
Hate to break it to you, but social engineering, or anything that contains ‘social’ doesn’t always equate to “left wing”. Greece’s military dictatorship used ‘social engineering’ and was very clearly a right-wing government, Nazi Germany and big business were often hand in hand (especially trade union busting…sounds very right wing to me).
You’re a shameful individual (i haven’t forgotten comments you made about Sophie Delezio years back).
…you simply ignored the fact I said they sought economic engineering to skip to my second point about social engineering.
Hate to break it to you, but any intervention by the state, including in matters of social engineering, is a classic case of left-wing politics.
That’s too bad because a) I have forgotten who you are and b) I have no recollection of that individual (she may be big news in NSW but quite unknown elsewhere) except for the fact that the commercial networks in Sydney used to love to “use” her.
Oh and one major point on how the left likes to purposely misunderstand people’s reactions to different events (and no, it doesn’t have anything to do with “brown people” as you so crassly put earlier).
People are shocked and upset and want action when a bomber blows up parents and children at a concert, because it could be any one of us.
People are shocked and upset and want action when a bomber brings down an aeroplane, because it could be any one of us going about our normal business.
People are shocked and upset and want action when a lunatic drives through a pedestrian mall.
People don’t stop and think, wow, that could have been me, after a guy mows down someone who has purposely inserted themselves into a dangerous and volatile protest with racist idiots.
Do you get the difference? Because I know the far-left will LOVE to use this one non-issue example as somehow balancing all the actual terrorism western societies actually have faced…“but right wing extremism too!!”.
No. Insulting out intelligence. That’s why respect in the media is at an all time low.
And just to really highlight the bias espoused by those “brainwashed by the far-left media” in recent political news, compare the two examples of politicians “failing to condemn” something, the other being Corbyn and Venezuela.
What Corbyn has previously stated regarding Venezuela’s socialist polices:
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/118806180582801408?lang=en
Corbyn’s response this week:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-britain-corbyn-idUSKBN1AN1QM
Corbyn’s equivocation in refusing to specifically condemn the socialist regime in Venezuela is concerning because he has actually held the regime up as a model for Britain. An economic model for the world. A lesson for all.
Trump…hasn’t personally tweeted support for the racist murderer. Trump hasn’t held the KKK or white nationalists up as a model for America or the “very wide world”.
So, it seems the left is far more reaching in seeking “condemnation” from right wing politicians that have NOTHING to do with certain events, than it is from far left politicians who have LITERALLY held up the economic policies of a nation which has utterly collapsed into anarchy as a model to be followed.
The nonsense and hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Cue the return to “love”, “coming together”, “healing” and “moving on” instead of anger in 3, 2, 1…
Feel free to continue to discuss anything related to the topic title. The previous discussion and personal sniping is not to continue. Thanks.
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As this topic had been discussed here earlier…
The entire far-left news media in the US is currently hyperventilating because Trump said the left-wing protestors that chose to attend the far-right rally were also very violent. No shit they were!
Apparently Trump went on some fully blown defence of Nazism just then? Am I reading this right?
Full Presidential address for your viewing pleasure everyone:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?432633-1/president-trump-says-blame-sides-violence-charlottesville
Jesus Christ, are you for real?
we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
You had some very bad people in that group.
You had a group on one side that was bad.
All of those people – i’ve condemned neo-Nazis.
The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them.
i’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists. They should be condemned totally.
Now, where the morons get mixed up is that Trump also highlighted the fact the alt-left came in violently to smash the protest:
What about the alt left that came charging at, as you say, at the alt right? Do they have any assemblage of guilt? What about the fact that they came charging with clubs in their hands swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do. That was a horrible, horrible day.
You had a group on one side and the other and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and horrible.
I think there is blame object both on both sides. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group too.
If condemning TOTALLY one group is a “full blown defence of Nazism” then you’ve simply lost your brain matlock.
Trump also RIGHTLY pointed out that the only reason there was conflict is because far-left violent thugs turned up to smash the protest…and any President worth his salt would condemn the violence too.
This is another example of the TOTAL disconnect between ordinary people that don’t have a voice in the media (or on social media like twitter), and far-left idiots that simply look to bash events into fitting a narrative…no matter how stupid and awkward.
I hate, hate, HATE the fact this MORONIC, stupid, baseless reporting of US politics by far-left idiots is influencing news, reporting and discussion in this country.
The United States is a sick, SICK country.
It is a public holiday here today and I’ve just woken up from a night out, and am catching up with news. What is wrong with you?
His speech looked to equate neonazis with those who protested against them. The speech was pretty appalling.