Federal Politics


#2603

Voting below the line is laborious, meaningless and wanky.


#2604

Unless it changes the result of an election, which it can.


#2605

That’s a furphy… if I ever heard one…


#2606

I’d rather vote below the line to I know where my preferences are going. Above the line is for the lazy and ill informed.


#2607

No, it’s a fact of the electoral process.


#2608

So what Australian election has been decided by a single below the line vote?

Can you name any?


#2609

Sounds like nothing more than a bit of self-righteous virtue-signalling…

‘Oh I vote below the line… I’m clearly superior to the bogan yobbos’…

Lighten up…


#2610

:joy: Calm down. I think you’re the one that needs to lighten up.


#2611

If anything, Tasmanians share a greater appreciation of the benefits GVT through Hare Clark.

And I’d suggest this is why they stupidly vote in great numbers below the line in the Senate.

58 candidates… and almost a third of Tasmanian voters cast their vote beolw the line.

Pure idiocy.


#2612

Above the line voting is what gives us these two bit micro parties who hold governments to ransom.


#2613

And below the line gives us the majors?

Really?


#2614

It means the voter’s preferences go where the voter wants, no whatever dodgy deals the parties have done. If micro parties didn’t get an advantage and funding, they wouldn’t bother meaning we.dont end up over one hundred candidates in some states.

The recent reforms at federal level (1-6 above or 1-12 below) are helpful and it will be interesting to see how it plays out at an orthodox half Senate election.


#2615

When parties continue to put people like Eric Abetz in the number 1 spot, I’ll keep voting below the line. Sure, he’ll still get in but when the first preferences come through and a lot of people are voting for others before him hopefully they get the message.


#2616

I’m really not so sure why you make it so complicated…

It’s democracy… it should be easy…

Sadly there are those amongst us who just love complexity and revel at being dweebs.


#2617

Well therein answers your ‘point’.


#2618

Bob Maguire comparing the Australian government’s treatment of people on Manus Island to Adolf Hitler’s extermination of Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, the disabled and millions more.


#2619

looks like news corp is pushing for Dutton to have a tilt at the leadership. the only reason i can see this working is so that dutton can be parachuted into a safe seat


#2620

Dual citizenship would not have become an issue in 2018 had the Howard Government resolved it during its tenure.


#2621

#2622

Why did the trip cost nearly 3,000? That’s a trip to Europe plus some.