She came 4th overall in the SF (3rd in the jury vote and 7th in the televote)
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The problem is itâs been two poor results (to a degree) in-a-row - last yearâs 9th place âmaskedâ the fact that Australia only got two points from the televote
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The Uk gets poor results all the time and they are still here. Truth is that Guy and Dami had overall better songs and performances than Isaiah and Jess. But I agree she didnt deserve to come last in the televote and the juries also marked her down. But to be honest after her relatively poor rehearsals and the quality of songs this year I didnt expect her to come higher than 15th place.
Why do we have to do a dummy spit after one poor result? Australians have an interest in Eurovision and it has increased since weâve entered it ourselves. There are many, many countries who have competed for decades without winning.
As long as the entry into the competition provides a big enough return for SBS in ratings ], advertising revenue and interest in SBS, then Australia will stay in the competition.
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That would be a lot less interesting. Every country does the same.
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Good thing about getting the DVD. No commentary plus the bits that SBS chops out.
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To each their own but itâs not about dummy spits or poor losers. The real fact is we are there by invitation only and it is in no way assured that we will continue to be invited. If we continue to be on the nose with the European voters one of two things will happen. Either we will stop being invited or will decide not to contest. Itâs a completely different scenario to the UK (or other poorly performing countries) who have been in this thing for 60 years and are actually in Europe. Weâve been in it as an invited novelty guest for 4 years. Also despite great and increasing ratings for SBS if the acts we send start to get zero points after good performances it will actually damage ratings. People will switch off as they have in the UK. It could get to the point where having an Australian act in Eurovision ultimately results in LOWER ratings for SBS than if we donât enter.
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This really seems like an over reaction. Why would they stop inviting us? Countries who break the rules or do something bad are the ones who are âuninvitedâ or should I say banned. Just because other teams received more votes than Australia, doesnât mean there is a sudden dislike of Australia being in the competition.
I think youâre hitting panic stations a bit too quickly. Even in countries where ratings have slipped, they still screen it and participate. Keep calm and carry on.
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But we are there by invitation only, as far as I know the only country not a full member of the EBU to be allowed to participate. If the EBU gets the sense that the novelty is over for European viewers, or that it is damaging the song contest brand, they will simply not invite us. EBU full members are the only ones entitled to be in the contest.
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Saw this mentioned on The Project - âlost in translationâ moment for a tweet from Israelâs PM.
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Mate Iâm not hitting any button - panic or otherwise - so relax, just expressing in opinion.
I donât think you understand that our âinvitationâ is special given SBS is only an associate member of the EBA, and itâs a completely different scenario to the member countries actually IN Europe.
As for the participating European broadcasters continuing to be in it, they are mostly state run enterprises with fewer commercial drivers than SBS and have a long cultural tradition within Europe. I also think BBC would dump it if they possibly could given the appalling treatment of their entries by both jury and public votes over the last decade. Brexit will only make it worse. It has become a bad joke in Britain.
Actually again just my opinion, but Eurovision has become a sad reflection of the EU itself over the past 40 years or so. A great time coming together with a small functional group of nations in the 70s and into the 80s. Then an over-expansion and delusions of grandeur in the 90s and 00s, then descending into tribal nationalism and dysfunction in the last decade. Itâs art imitating life 
Anyway itâs just my opinion and I happen to disagree with you. Thatâs why itâs called a forum.
Correct.
I must be the only one who thought Jessâs performance was quite ordinary.
Song was okay but wrong for the competition. Choreography, dancing, wardrobe choices etc all terrible. I think Jess did the best with what she was given but it felt like a Thursday morning at Brekky Central to me.
You do well at Eurovision by either whipping up the hype machine (high risk but it paid off for Israel today) or by producing an absolute knockout performance (like Dami did a couple of years ago). You donât win by being the nice girl next door.
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Disagree completely with you. We came 4th in the semifinal placing 3rd with the juries, only 2 points away from second place and 7th with the public, with only 6 points seperating 5th and 7th place. Thats an indication that Europe still wants us in the competition.
The truth is Jess had a very ordinary song and performance that didnât stand out enough to make an impact in a very strong year. The majority of viewers see the songs for the first time in the final, so you have to have something which will make them pick up the phone and vote for you.
Guy and Dami had this. Isaiah and Jess didnât. We just need to send better songs and better staging. Imagine if every country quit when they got one poor result, thats sore loser mentality.
I understand what youâre saying but itâs completely illogical to get good votes from the public in the semis and then come LAST in the public vote in the final. Last means the public thought it was the worst song behind 25 other songs and that undeniably indicates a backlash.
The semis voting is meaningless. In fact I doubt very many people vote in the semis. It would be a very small hardcore group so not indicative of the wider sentiment. You said yourself most people only see the song for the first time in the final.
By the way I also disagree with you on the song and performance. I thought it equalled Guyâs and was much much better than Isaiah. Damiâs stood above them all.
It was the highest rating show in the UK on Saturday night so despite the UK traditionally ranking poorly it is still a ratings puller
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Iâll hahe whatever youâre smoking thanks. Itâs simple, it wasnât the best song in a pretty strong year. Howâs your logic going given weâve been in the top 10 every year until this one?
Also, warnings that weâre about to be kicked out is stupid. EBU countries have been dropping like flies over recent years (eh Turkey doesnât compete anymore). Weâre new blood. It shows the competition has life in it.
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So it was the worst song of the 26 then in your mind? Thatâs what coming last in the public vote actually means. Iâll have some of what youâre smoking.
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It wasnât the worst but it was a middle of the pack song at best. Both the song and staging were very underwhelming despite Jess giving her best effort. I didnât think we would finish higher than 15th this year.
I had hoped within Top 10 mostly because her song and performance was much better than Isaiah last year and he ended up 9th at the end of public and jury votes. I think there was nothing wrong with Jessica Mauboyâs performance but the staging was perhaps a little lacking when compared to some of the more elaborate sets that other countries came up with.
But Iâm sure all parties involved will sit back and review their options and make a commercial decision, in particular Sony who I believe foots most of the bill for Australia to compete, but Iâm not sure that exiting after one bad result is a particularly wise gesture. It just reeks of chucking a tantrum and would probably be seen as such.
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