Driving & Traffic


#266

It will probably go close.

The current longest is 24.5 km in Norway.


#267

Are you talking combined length of all the tunnels or single longest?

Actually it would be interesting to compare in Australia. I still think the longest (almost) continuous tunnel experience might be the Clem 7 and Airport Link in Brisbane. Yes there is a very short section (maybe 200m?) in daylight when you “come up for air”, but you go straight from the 5km long Clem7 to the 7km long Airport Link. When taken together it certainly feels like a long time!


#268

With Beaches Link included the longest distance you’d be able to drive totally underground for about 25km from the M5 to the northern beaches. If they go through with the entire F6 extension from Sutherland to Brighton it’d be 40km entirely underground.


#269

The Victorian Government today ruled out following NSW Government’s plan, saying drivers have the option of paying car registration in installments.
I think the Queensland Government should adopt the NSW plan given Brisbane has several tollways.


#270

Though QLD doesn’t have the same cost of living pressures that NSW has.

And I think QLD car rego and petrol is cheaper as well.


#271

No actually rego is higher in Qld and petrol in Brisbane is the most expensive in the country. Housing is cheaper of course but even so some areas (like Sunshine Coast for example) have some of the highest mortgage “stress” in the country too. It would be a great policy for Brisbane as there are a couple of toll roads under utilized (eg M7 Tunnel and M5 Legacy Way) and this would encourage traffic onto them.


#272

Why? this is just a shit policy designed to buy votes from Sydney’s west


#273

I agree.

As even people outside NSW should know by now, our current Transport Minister (and State Premier who previously was a Transport Minister) is absolutely hopeless. We need someone who actually lives in an electorate covered by the Sydney Trains network rather than one that’s a couple of hundred kilometres away from the nearest station in the network!


#274

Or you just pay out the private operators and make it a freeway.

If the government is going to subsidise the cost of a road being built, then subsidise a private operator making money by cutting rego - they can afford to just build a public road.

It is insane that governments up and down the country are spending billions on roads that are then tolled by a private operator. If the government is paying a cent of the cost of building it, it should only be tolled for the purposes of paying off debt incurred in building it. Let a private operator run the tolling infrastructure in return for a flat fee per use, but don’t let them own the road or make money off the tolls themselves.


#275

At least until the Canberra-Bombala- Eden bullet train is built.


#276

Melbourne’s West Gate Bridge opened 40 years ago last month.

Just found this film documenting part of the ceremony and official opening of the bridge.

Also for any radio people, some snippets from 3DB, 3XY and 3AK

And it was such a different time… smokers, small kids travelling in the front seat of cars with no seat restraint, and 60 cent tolls

YouTube: Documentary Australia