COVID-19: Melbourne/Greater Victoria Re-Opens

Well a lot of Asian countries are tracking, using bracelets etc. There are other ways to do it. It just seems to be that a handful of people do not want to comply.

And thus begs the question of whether going to the extent of tracking people is justified in the circumstances.

Remember too that even if the majority of those 800 people were exercising it was, until this morning at least, perfectly legal (which also means the public housing lockdowns were illegal, and I suspect there’ll be a court challenge at some stage about this)

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Here in SA there was one man who came from Victoria and went to the gym 6 times. People aren’t doing things that are perfectly legal which makes it evident that they need to do something different to make sure what they are doing is. People shouldn’t have a problem being tracked if they are doing the right thing and sometimes we need to suck it up to get through something.

When they say that 800/3000 weren’t home I assume that just mean 800 people didn’t answer the door? There are plenty of reasons they might not hear a knock - E.g. if someone is sleeping (which is likely if they are sick), out in backyard, on a call for work, having a shower etc etc could all be valid reasons that someone doesn’t answer the door. Exercise is not unlawful either until tomorrow. So I’m wondering if it’s possible that only a smaller percentage of these numbers genuinely are doing the wrong thing.

That also crossed my mind. If I was in the shower or asleep I wouldn’t hear anymore knocking at the door.

The door knocks are several over a period of time. It’s more likely that 3000 is cumulative (eg - the same person not being home 3 times is added in 3 times).

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From the conversations i’ve had, this seems to be the consensus opinion out there. Including from people that were outraged that China was doing that 5 months ago. Now it seems the only logical thing to do.

Legalities aside. these are people that are carelessly risking so many lives and livelihoods of other people. ethically, why should anyone care about risking these peoples OH&S?

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Honestly shocking. Why aren’t these jailable offences :frowning_face:

Whoops I took the post too seriously, sorry!

Although, when we advance further technologically, it could be a thing, who knows?

Is the officer ok?

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:yum: true

Nine News said this retailer “contactless click and collect” needs to be for essential items only. Not sure who is going to define or monitor that for the retailers.

Assault is a jailable offence.

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You can only click and collect in your 5km radius anyway. For most that would give very limited options. I’m sure for most retailers it wouldn’t be worth their while bothering.

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I expect a tumbleweed to wander across the freeway.

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The Government’s permitted worker scheme form can be found here -

http://www.justice.vic.gov.au/permitted-worker-scheme

3AW breakfast said the site to get permitted worker scheme crashed this morning and had been taken down temporarily.

UPDATE:
The Department of Justice has posted alternate links to provide information on the permitted worker scheme.

https://www.vic.gov.au/worker-permit-scheme


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Re. the first point - so police do random checks on trains and trams after all, looking for people breaking curfew and/or not having exemptions

Re. the fourth point - do police check IDs on people inside shopping centres?

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