For essential workers:
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What the actual hell⌠800 people out of 3000 who were door knocked not at home⌠WITH THE VIRUS.
Iâve barely left my bloody house since we were told to work from home in March and iâm hell over it, but jesus christ - we will like actually never get out of this with that amount of people not doing the right thing.
Time for China style rules - weld their door shut.
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How will other people provide food to those people then? Plus welding the door will create a safety hazard, they wonât be able to escape if there is a fire.
I really think they need to get tougher. Not with the fines but they need to do something.
Force people who are in quarantine, a close contact etc to wear a GPS home detention style tracker.
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This wonât work.
Why not, I would like to ask
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Drop it down the chimney via drone.
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You do realise not everyone has a chimney
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Yeah. Getting goods down the chimney works fine at Christmas.
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Is this a serious reply? Because clearly mine wasnât.
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We are in a health crisis that requires mass compliance with the testing procedures. The further you increase the likelihood of someone being fined, and the further you increase what that fine is, the less likely people who have broken the rules - particularly those who have breached the rules inadvertently - will come forward and get tested. If youâve done the wrong thing, why suddenly risk a $5000 fine - more than 5.4 times the median weekly salary?
People who are deliberately non-compliant - the conspiracy theorists, the Karens, the sovereign citizens, the dickheads - arenât going to suddenly give a shit. This only fuels their arguments: that itâs a conspiracy, that the government wants to censor me, that I should be able to go to Bunnings. Theyâll crowdfund or refuse to pay and wait for the long drawn out court proceedings.
The state government have continually taken the punitive approach and it hasnât worked. The same areas with the highest rate of fines issued back in March, those in the western and northern suburbs are the same areas where outbreaks are now concentrated in. Why? Because those outbreaks are occurring in industries with precarious working conditions: distribution and transport, aged care, meat handling. That is the common thread throughout this crisis.
This would be a lot more palatable if the government could demonstrate what a significant proportion of those 800 people were actually doing. If they were all out exercising, then it would be easy for the government to justify why theyâre choosing to breach the Human Rights charter that the State of Disaster provisions allow them to. So why not show that data?
Could it be, however, that people were at work because they were forced to? Because a single $1500 payment is meaningless if your job is on the line?
When youâre a hammer, everything looks like a nail. The fact that Victoria Police continue to publicise blatant lies that theyâre told by those breaching the rules suggests that either theyâre bad at communicating or theyâre incredibly thick. Giving them more power is the last thing any of us need.
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I feel they should also confiscate their car keys.
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I suggest that you give Daniel Andrews a call! Seems like everything they do is wrong by your estimations. Maybe you have some better ideas. 
Your attempt to put words in my mouth didnât work last time, but I appreciate that youâre continuing to try.
Victoria Police issued 161 fines in the past 24 hours. 60 of those were for not wearing face covering.
⢠Apollo Bay resident was found in Macedon Ranges on the way to Mildura to visit a friend
⢠Bendigo resident refused to use a face covering because they were face-timing their friend who wouldnât be able to see them properly
⢠Sydenham resident in Broadmeadows trying to find a bottle shop after curfew
⢠A male was intercepted at 3am on the way to a fast food restaurant in Casey
⢠Three people from different address travelling in the same car were found in Roxburgh Park after curfew returning from a fast food restaurant
⢠A person was bored to decided to head out for a drive after curfew
⢠A person decided to buy a car after curfew
One of the most serious and disgraceful acts I heard on the press conference was that two police officers approached a women in Frankston for not wearing a face covering. The women then attacked an officer smashing her head into the concrete.
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It was meant to be light hearted, apologies if you feel offended by my words. I wasnât trying to put anything in your mouth!
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Yeah I agree. The fines arenât going to work. They are just going to add those fines to the current lot they probably have and never pay it back. They need to go harder and think of different way to make sure people are doing the right thing.
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Thatâs weird. The car dealers are all closed at night and will be for some time from Thursday.
Ooh, Matron.
I wonder what they can do, in all seriousness. Doorknocks seem to be a good start, if nothing else at least to understand where people are. Iâm in a postcode that was one of the 10 that went to stage 3 before the rest of Melbourne (and Mitchell Shire) did and the only police presence we saw was a checkpoint on one of the arterial roads, so some more visible presence might be useful. I just wonder how much good the threat of fines would undo.
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Iâm presuming it wouldâve been a private sale rather than from a dealership
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