COVID-19: Discussion of Impact 😷

There’s nothing that says someone must immediately return home after finishing hotel quarantine. It’s highly likely he quarantined in Perth for some sort of arbitrary reason - perhaps to visit family before returning home, or even perhaps the flight was cheaper.

The press conference didn’t say anything about a G2G Pass, it was that he failed to use the SafeWA app to check-in, but nonetheless through interviews they were able to work out the contract tracing.

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You can’t enter the state without a completed G2G.

It seems NSW is enforcing the WA lockdown in anyone arriving from Perth/Peel

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-update-victoria-23-april-2021

Update: New interstate acquired case

WA Health recently reported transmission between two rooms at a Hotel Quarantine facility in Perth.

As a result of this known transmission, WA Health determined other residents on the floor of that hotel as primary close contacts.

This morning, the Victorian Department of Health received notification of a positive COVID-19 result in a recently identified primary close contact from the Hotel Quarantine facility.

That individual travelled from Perth to Melbourne on Wednesday 21 April.

On arrival at the airport, he was immediately advised by Western Australian health authorities of his status as a Primary Close Contact.

He returned directly to his home in Melbourne’s eastern suburbs.

He was tested yesterday, returning the positive result this morning.

Out of caution, and before the positive test result was known, he was moved into hotel quarantine in Melbourne at his request, where he remains.

Four household and social contacts are associated with this case – the individual’s spouse, his two children, and a friend of one child.

All have been tested.

The Department will continue to manage the public health actions associated with this case and will continue to monitor the situation in Western Australia

Update: Exposure sites

The Department is listing the following as a Tier 1 exposure site:

  • Qantas flight QF778 from Melbourne from Perth on Wednesday 21 April

If you were on this flight, you must isolate, get tested and remain isolated for 14 days – unless otherwise formally advised by the Department of Health.

The Department is contacting over 250 individuals on this flight using information obtained from comprehensive flight manifest data, and border permits.

While the individual returned directly to his home in Melbourne’s eastern suburbs, he did pass through the airport.

As a result, after interviews and CCTV investigations, the Department intends to publish the following as a Tier 2 exposure site:

  • Melbourne Airport Terminal One between 6.30pm and 7.30pm on Wednesday 21 April

Anyone who was at this location during this time must isolate, get tested and remain isolated until they get a negative result.

Further locations – including those within the airport – may be classified as exposure sites based on continued investigations.

I am confused by your question. Why can’t he room around WA after completing his 14 day quarantine? He traveled from Shanghai to perth and did his 14 day quarantine. So I am not sure how the pass works in these situations.

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WA Department of Health has released a list of locations the Victorian man visited while in Perth, after released from hotel quarantine.

Travel between NZ and Western Australia has been paused following today’s announcement. An Air New Zealand flight scheduled to depart Perth for Auckland tonight has been cancelled.

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The problem is the number of people who test negative in India and then test positive in HQ. The NT CHO said yesterday he suspects some are getting fraudulent tests.

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The worldwide pandemic is hitting all new highs.

There are currently 94 countries vaccinating faster than Australia

This thing is here for years. It’s going to be an endemic.

I think Australia will continue with snap lockdowns for a long time yet as the vaccination is so slow.

The country has kinda painted itself into a corner with the zero Covid policy that it can’t get out of now - possibly for another 12 months till vaccination rates top 70% or the countries tolerance of cases rises significantly

Winter is coming and it’s seasonal and low vaccination rates and close to zero immunity in the population means it’s ripe to spread or explode

Australia’s world beating success I think will be a double edged sword now

I wonder if the non existence of Covid in Australia will mean vaccine take up will be much lower than other nations?

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Painted it self into a corner?

Sorry but I still wouldn’t want to be anywhere else other than Australia or New Zealand right about now, even if that’s for the next year or two. I’ll wait.

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It didn’t last year. It’s just the hotel quarantine issues that still plague us. I’m going to the UK later this year and it puzzles me some of the things you say. The entire world except here and NZ fucked it. Vaccines help, but it’s after the horse has bolted and led to hundreds of thousands deaths. Only completely boarding up from other places worked.

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What puzzles you?

Yes the entire world did fuck if up, but now they are fixing it with fast vaccine rollout

The mistakes EU, UK, US made were completely avoidable and will always be a scare. It’s been infuriating to watch the responses living here in Europe.

Vaccines don’t help. They are the solution. They will
Eventually end the pandemic. In Isreal, the UK there are clear signs they have ended the pandemic. Reports today that the Pandemic is by definition over in the UK (not to say it won’t come back) and we are now in an endemic / continuous low circulation of virus that will
Be seasonal - like flu. Ever constant.

Border closures and lockdowns don’t end the pandemic they buy time. But only work when in affect. The vaccines will end the pandemic permanently.

It’s a shame Australia didn’t follow up the world beating controlling of cases with a world beating vaccination roll out.

Right, but my point is they aren’t the solution until 12-18 months later. The rest of the world fucked up by not closing borders and controlling the outbreak. Australia and NZ are the only ones who did it right, and to be lectured by other countries is insane. Yes, Australia needs to fix the vaccination issue and of course the one thing the Feds had to do, they screwed it up. But the position here is the envy of the world, to pretend otherwise is absurd.

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I doubt the UK would have rolled out the vaccine as quick as it did if it was in the same position as australia.

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and as indicated yesterday by the Victorian Health minister that the Vic CHO could change yesterday’s local case to an interstate acquired case. As noted in todays numbers the VIC CHO did reclassify it from locally acquired to interstate acquired

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That’s exactly it. Europe, UK and the USA all had emergency approvals for use because of the situations that they are in. This is also the reason we are so short on supply of certain vaccines here because certain parts of the world that were/are in an emergency situation have been getting the significant supply of doses.

Given that most Australian’s have been living close to normal lives for months I don’t think that most of us have been in a rush to vaccinate so early either. As we’ve seen waiting has been beneficial in some ways, such as uncovering issues that are arising (such as clots on AstraZeneca and now the like third dose or ongoing requirement for Pfizer). So we are now better informed on what we will be getting.

I was also reading a study from Israel which showed that once 50% of the population of over 60s are fully vaccinated, that’s the point that you start to see a massive drop off in cases, severe cases, hospitalisations etc. Australia should at least get to that point and beyond in the coming months which reduces the risk if there are outbreaks. We have administered close to 2million doses so far and that will ramp up when it opens to all over 50s in early May.

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I’m finding it interesting how NSW is taking a different stance this time with border restrictions. NSW seems to aligning it self with the other states and NZ.