COVID-19: Discussion of Impact 😷

ah ok

While that sounds logical…
Getting vaccinated isn’t just about protecting yourself; that ignores the risk of spread.

We should be vaccinating as many people as quickly as possible to reduce the risk of people transmitting it.

Although vaccinated people might still spread the virus, it is very much reduced, so I think we should all get vaccinated as soon as we can.
Doing so will help others who may be more vulnerable to clots or have another medical reason why they can’t get the available vaccine, such as children (if I recall correctly the vaccines haven’t yet been approved for people under 16 years old).

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I found the state of emergency extension declaration at the Victorian Department of Health website. It was signed by Health Minister Martin Foley today.

I got Astra Zeneca today

If you see no more posts about bad graphics on Seven or 10 News at 6 going national you’ll all know I died from clots

:grimacing:

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That’s the thing though - the policy will end up requiring more people to wait longer while they secure Pfizer jabs for younger people. The Pfizer is clearly more effective, so the balance of risks should be to give that to the people who are more likely to need that extra efficacy - the elderly and the at risk groups, and those who work with them.

People in priority groups are now likely to all get the AZ one just because they will be holding back limited Pfizer to give to people like me - it doesn’t weigh the risks the right way around.

This just smacks of reversed reasoning - they’ve set a cut off of using AZ in people over 50, because that’s the bulk of the people in the current phase of vaccination.

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-update-victoria-10-april-2021
Victoria has recorded 1 overseas acquired case of coronavirus since yesterday. The case is a flight passenger and is in hotel quarantine. There are no new locally acquired cases of coronavirus since yesterday.

This is the 43rd day in a row that Victoria has recorded no locally acquired cases.

The total number of confirmed cases in Victoria since the beginning of the pandemic is 20,485.

Risks aside, it’s better to get people who are more likely to be exposed to the virus fully vaccinated ASAP, so the BioNTech vaccine from Pfizer should be (have been) preferred for border workers & medical staff treating COVID-19 patients.

There’s some logic behind saying that younger people who are interacting with others more than the elderly maybe should’ve been getting the BioNTech vaccine first, but neither decision is absolutely clear & straightforward.

Of course the clotting issue, small as the risk of that may be, changes the risk-benefit calculations.

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Today’s VIC and NSW numbers

Not going to happen.

This surge across Asia is going to be huge, some of these countries have had it bad in the past but the current wave is dwarfing past waves and cases still increasing fast.






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This is why I think any thoughts of opening up international travel in to and out of Australia this year is a mistake.

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https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-update-victoria-11-april-2021

Victoria has recorded 0 new cases of coronavirus since yesterday.

This is the 44th day in a row that Victoria has recorded no locally acquired cases.

Update: Travel permit zones

Based on an assessment of public health risks, the Chief Health Officer has declared the following areas will be designated green zones under Victoria’s ‘traffic light’ travel permit system effective 11:59pm tonight, 11 April:

  • Greater Brisbane (City of Brisbane, City of Ipswich, Logan City, Moreton Bay Region, Redlands City)
  • The Gladstone region in Queensland
  • Byron Shire in New South Wales

When in effect, every location in Australia and New Zealand will be green zones for the purpose of entering Victoria.

Arrivals from green zones still require a permit to enter Victoria, because the information provided supports the speed of Victoria’s response should the public health situation in any location change.

Permits can be obtained at Service Victoria. For more information on Victoria’s travel permit system, visit Victorian Travel Permit System.

The Chief Health Officer will continue monitoring the situation and will provide further updates as needed.