COVID-19: Discussion of Impact 😷

Extra Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion
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9364

We seem to be on a very constant run at the moment. I believe Australia is currently 6 days now without a local case?

9365

You would hope so considering they aren’t taking any returning Australians from overseas.

9366

Its a slow start - but it was always going to be that. This is going to be one of the largest medical logistics effort we’ve ever seen in Australia and relies on a lot going the right way.

We shouldnt underestimate the effort its going to take to make sure the vaccine reaches distribution locations and to make sure we can actually get people to attend vaccination sites to recieve their vaccines. The current targets are optimistic and theoretical, they rely on things working “as designed”. We also dont have much insight into how the rollout will actually occur on the ground - likely because these plans are still being developed

The early stages of the rollout are going to be slower then the later stages - thats partly down to how the availability is phased in but also availability of people, equipment, and vaccines.

Thats great, but it doesnt help us now - they’ll need to go through the TGA for approval first. That said, we still dont know what the future entails with vaccines - is one shot sufficient or is it two, do we need it every year, what is the true effectiveness of these vaccines (the current numbers are based on trials and really early rollout). But we need to expect that, we’ve been able to develop, test and certify a range of vaccines for a virus that we’ve only been battling with on a mass scale for 12 months - we cant lose sight of that.

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Here’s what the Victorian Government said on the new case in hotel quarantine:
The one positive case is an airline crew member, who will quarantine for 14 days. “We still have airline crew members coming in for outbound flights and freight.”

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9370

Fair enough. They were planning to ship half a million and haven’t even filled obligations they have promised to other countries.

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9371

I feel like the media is trying its best to turn these vaccine shipment stories into outrage pieces, but it doesn’t seem to be working for them.

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9372

It shouldn’t work. Any reasonable person would see that many EU countries have huge numbers of COVID-19 cases, while Australia has basically none.
They need the vaccines much more than we do.

The issue, the only issue, with the slow vaccine rollout in Australia is that the Morrison government said everyone in Australia would be vaccinated by October 2021, which was always a ridiculously optimistic timeframe, possibly with the thought they’d call an election well before October, and so the failure to achieve their announced timeline would be forgotten by a 2024 election.

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9373

Also we aren’t relying on those shipments. Melbourne is to manufacture 50 million doses. While we aren’t accepting many returning Australians and the risk is minimal I am not sure why the media is trying to make this such a big fuss. And I don’t blame Belgium for dismissing Australia’s claim. We need to stop being so greedy.

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9374

Victoria’s numbers -

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9376

If I am going to Sydney from melbourne do I need to do a border declaration? I know I have to do one for returning to Victoria but wondering if NSW has the equivalent?

9377

Victoria are still persisting with that? How quaint

No declaration required to enter NSW - https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/what-you-can-and-cant-do-under-rules/border-restrictions

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9378

and iam glad as an victorian the victorian govt is still persisting with the permits :slight_smile:

9379

I’m currently in Echuca/Moama for the long weekend and there is no police what so ever on the bridge. The checkpoint is gone.

If you’re still required a permit to enter Victoria, you would’ve thought that there will somewhat be a check upon entry into Victoria.

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9380

If there was continuing local transmission, then it’s a valid response - but we are now in a situation where only one state (VIC) have had a local case within the last month and its more then 50 days since an unlinked case

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9382

but what WA and tasmania they have the same sort of system as well

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What about them? It should be the same deal, but given what we’ve seen from WA, they’re unlikely to change theirs any time soon

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