Classification


#325

But can commercial broadcasters be allowed to air MA15+ at 8:30pm? I know that abc and SBS has done since 2014.


#326

…is what I am referring to only (not ABC and SBS).

Code being the “Commercial Television Industry Code of Practice”.

:+1:


#327

I feel like this has been discussed here before, but why would this be the case?


#328

Yes, I’d also be rather interested to know why movies are still running under the old classification rules even after things have been relaxed for other programing.


#330

Certainly not in Adelaide and regional SA as you state, but remote SA and remote NT yes where MA movies can be shown earlier than 9:00pm if they are scheduled at 9:00pm in the primary time zone of the licence, which Imparja and SCA has determined is Queensland time. iirc.


#331

Obviously that’s different.


#332

Something I’ve been meaning to bring up for while.

Nine for some reason broadcast many films cut after 9pm, even though they don’t have to. It is a trend that only they seem to do, over many many years.

It seems to only occur with their old copies, from their Warner Bros titles, probably dated back to the 1990s.

I just watched “The Gauntlet” (1977) with Clint Eastwood on 9Gem from Saturday night. Broadcast as “M”, when it should’ve been “MA15+”!?

Other examples include “Just Cause” (1995), “The Shawshank Redemption” and “Goodfellas”, “Hard To Kill”, “The Enforcer” & “Dirty Harry”, “Mad Max 2”, “Cobra”, “Lethal Weapon 4”, “The Last Boy Scout”, “Eraser”, “Payback”, “Three Kings” (among many others).

I think these copies are also from the time (no later than early 2000s), when MA15+ (cut from R18+) would remove most ‘F words’, as in they used to completely butcher it. But that hasn’t been the case for around 15 years now, in line with newer approaches by the Classification Board.

Hence, I wonder if it’s because these versions became the master copies, I’d say so? Nine should contact Warner Bros International Television and get new copies, if they still have rights to such tities in this aforementioned situation.

I am hoping members like @Zampakid and @SydneyCityTV who would’ve seen these movies air frequently over the years, know what I’m getting at.

It is not good to edit movies unnecessarily, especially for loyal fans of certain titles and if they DVR it.

Only example from another network, where they never air the uncut version for some reason, is “American Pie 2” (Seven), always the cut “M” version.


#333

That would be odd of Nine as they have definitely shown Dirty Harry uncut MA 15+, and indeed the first such airing was promoted as ‘for the first time uncut’. Can’t remember when that was, it was many years ago, but I do remember watching it then and seeing the serial killer getting beaten up in full.


#334

Bingo. I think you vastly overestimate how much the networks actually care about these sorts of things. It is the exact same reason why the commercial networks continued to air 4:3 cuts of a significant number of films 10 years + after the advent of Digital TV.


#335

It’s not just them airing edited versions only for certain titles at late night that’s odd.

But Nine are also seemingly the only network that air copies that are like 25 years old, at dead times (midnight, etc) all the time.

Yes, Seven do the same with some of their stalwart Disney titles. Sister Act, Pretty Woman, Con Air (until recently) etc. But at least they’re big and popular films.

But nowhere near as much as Nine. Not some B-Grade 1990s Warner Bros chiller like “Final Analysis” with Richard Gere & Kim Basinger, that nobody will watch.

And we know what Ten are like, they air next to no movies these days at all!

I just find it bizzare. We’re in 2018 and we still have 90s-esque edits AND copies of movies being aired.

Where’s all the HD and premieres!? C’mon. Not enough.

Sorry about the rant, but I do have movie in my name :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Probably early - mid 2000s no earlier?

They used to have an “M” version (bur that might’ve been when it was still R18+, before the ACB re-classified it in mid-2000s down to MA15+).

But Nine removed or blanked most ‘F words’ and it was butchered to shit.

Thank God that no longer happens.


#336

#337

Please stop cross-promoting your posts, Luke. First and last warning.


#339

HBO lauded drama, also nominated for multiple awards, which recently had its first run on cable “The Deuce” is being released on DVD / Blu-Ray / digital in a couple of weeks.

It documents the out of control pornography industry in New York City in the 70s/80s and associated cocaine / heroin culture. Starring James Franco, Maggie Gyllenhaal & Margarita Leveiva (from Revenge).

The Australian Classification Board has given it an “R18+” with “High impact sex scenes and sexualised nudity”.

ACB details: http://www.classification.gov.au/Pages/View.aspx?sid=0xGelFPvt8pUZbRfHMLWbQ%3d%3d&ncdctx=ASDVIO%2fpXwgEEzzjlsImNva5vVR6prHs2z7YLOm%2fzwoRivxb5jVeRK%2BoTJ5RO45G

I saw a couple of episodes and have further read articles / seen caps of content I didn’t see and I am surprised, to be honest, that it very nearly wasn’t given “RC” (Refused Classification) (i.e.) banned!

From the ACB:
"Material that is classified RC contains content that is very high in impact and falls outside generally accepted community standards.

Warning - below contains explicit language, but I needed to for context, mods please edit if against policy

There are episodes showing erect penises, a scene of simulated ejaculation on a characters face, sodomy and intercourse almost to the point of if there were penetration (i.e.) porn, it’d be visible.

Vary rare for a show to go both uncut and receive a classification, for such content.

Movies like “Boogie Nights” pushed it and that was two decades ago.

NB/
Yes, allowed in certain states, there is “X18+” which is a classification for porn, but NO acting (violence, drug use, etc) can be involved - must be just a porno. Hence if The Deuce went any further… RC.


#340


#341

Just you wait until your father gets home


#342

9Go! is airing “Rambo” (2008) tonight, a network premiere after airing on Seven many times.

It’s classified R18+, so has to be edited by Nine.

It is considered one of the most violent films of the 21st Century, despite not being a well known film. Stallone who also directed this, said he wanted to make it as realistic as possible, set in civil war-torn Burma.

Seven edited it respectfully, with only absolutely necessary shots removed (in my opinion too softly, with bodies still seen getting blown apart in the blood-bath final fight sequence).

Will get back with what they edited and how it differs from Seven (if at all).


#343

PRG error, incorrect classification bug during “Cobra” (1986) on 7mate.

EPG and Seven’s program guide have it as “M”.

Either that, or the wrong program guide and EPG info was logged?


#344

No consumer advice for tonight’s “M” classification on Good Doctor.

Despite every other episode to date carrying it and tonight’s episode still having rather detailed medical procedures (head cut open with brain exposed, for example).

I think a case of Seven’s classification department being lazy and not wanting to review the episode? It is a fast tracked show and Simpsons / X Men movies just acquired would take a hell of a time to get through. But still, not really a great excuse.

Whilst the code has always said consuner advice isn’t a requirement when it’s not a movie / telemovie / mini series / doco at “PG” and “M” and many shows have always just aired a plain “M” (e.g.) NCIS re-runs, other sitcoms. I think when an element is significant (e.g.) violence, it should be mentioned.

It sort of defeats the purpose a bit, how can you classify a program “M”, but not advise viewers as to the principal elements that lead to it :thinking: It’s essentially saying the network just gave it a plain “M” for the feel of it or we think it’s more suited to a mature audience


#345

Out of interest, can anyone explain to me how classification works with streaming services.

Do Netflix, Stan, etc. classify the programming themselves, or do they simply copy the Classification boards rulings for all streamed content.
I’d imagine original content would be classified by the streaming provider?

Are there any rules in place around things that they simply cannot have on their platforms?


#346

The show was shown in the US two weeks ago.