Classic TV Listings

That was quite common back in 1992, as the regional areas had different rating periods to the metros so NBN/WIN made their own decisions to hold back movies/specials etc for their own ratings periods.

Agree

NBN didn’t ‘opt out’ as Nine didn’t run a late night replay either, it was a WIN only decision to air it (for some reason). NBN ran the same late movie as Nine in that case.

$$$$? I think regionals were still struggling with recouping the costs from aggregation, but that came a couple of years later.

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Would they have the rights via Nine or still had their own libraries at that point?

Again, it’s weird for NBN not to replay, of all things, a Knights game.

Even with a dirty feed?

A good question, not sure whether affiliates had to source material via their feeder network, or could use their own source material from previous airings (as long as rights permitted of course).

It would have cost money to keep the transmitters on air, as historically they got switched off after close down.. I recall reading NBN said it cost them money to run the Nine feed overnight, they only did it as “a service to their viewers”.

Interesting the ABC called rugby league “super league highlights” given what happened a couple of years later.

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Also weird that Prime showed a different movie while Seven in Sydney and Melbourne were showing the blockbuster movie Pretty Woman. It was in those days when all regional affiliates showed different movies to the metros due to Prime’s delayed implementation of aggregation and different ratings periods. Movies were the big ratings drawcards then, while today the networks use movies as “top-up” programming mainly on Friday or Saturday nights where either viewership is low or people are watching the NRL or AFL.

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Yeah but even then they use to call their coverage “Saturday Super League” even before the W broke out

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The weirdest thing about this is that the regionals have stated that when they screen local news, they still must pay their metro partners for that half hour, then pay again for the program they displace if and when they air it. At the time when it was first said, WIN used the example of WIN News at 6, National Nine News at 6:30 and A Current Affair at 7pm and moving Sale Of The Century to an earlier time of day.

So if this rule applied if you look at all the regional variations on WIN above, you would need to question the rationale of replacing movies from 1989-1990 with movies from 1987. If they needed to show these, why didnt they use Saturday night instead?

conditions in those early contracts may have been different to later ones. As others have stated regional and metro survey dates also differed in those days so some regionals opted to move movie screenings around accordingly.

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Thats correct that there were no “refunds” on programs not taken due to local news or other content, but I don’t think it’s correct that they had to pay again to move programs around, the affiliation fees were just a set percentage of revenue and it included everything.

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The affiliate fees would have been for 24/7 programming if they take it or not. Seems very strange they would seek refunds for shows they don’t show. For example Good Sports I would like to know how that arrangement worked as it was a WIN production that Nine and NBN also broadcast. There was also a Fishing show that had a similar arrangement. I would assume Nine would have paid WIN for the show but NBN would have got the show as part of their affiliate payment. Or was there some other arrangement where WIN might provide Nine with crew for Tasmanian stories for the Today show Nine News etc if necessary as Good Sports was based in Tasmania. So no additional payment was made. Probably more likely the former.

From the Mount Gambier ‘Border Watch’… 12-13 May 1987. Only the two local channels listed.

But in the one below (13 May 1998) they also included Victorian aggregation channels as well since Mt Gambier didn’t get a 2nd commercial TV channel until 2004.

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SES having teletext is interesting - I wonder what service that would be? “Page 700” implies more than just captions?

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Austext was the only real one left by then, though I don’t remember it having any local insertion capabilities. Maybe they were somehow doing their own?

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A footy prelims Classic TV Guide.

September 18-19 1982, the year the Swans relocated to Sydney in the VFL and the Canberra Raiders and Illawarra Steelers joined the NSWRL.

Sydney (SMH) - had the VFL live on 7, highlights on the ABC, WIN-4 also showed it live, NBN-3 didn’t. NSWRL on ABC, 7, NBN-3 and WIN-4.

Melbourne (The Age) - VFL coverage and ABC and 7, the NSWRL only had late night highlights on the ABC.

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So good!

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Yeah, if I could make a suggestion, anyone scanning old TV guides, please check the image resolution and picture clarity. This forum is an archive and I save a lot of the good quality listings here but some of the uploads these past 2 years have been far too low quality to read.

Please take the time to even zoom in and check your posting a decent image.

I will post a few of my collection soon.

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Below is a ‘Grand Final’ flavoured Classic TV Guide listing for Sydney and Melbourne .. for 26-27 September 1981, again where both the VFL and Sydney rugby league games were on the same weekend.. 1981 was also the final year where both codes were confined to teams from their traditional SYD/MEL bases only.

Sydney - VFL Live on 7 (1.55pm start time for 2.30pm opening bounce), ABC evening Highlights and the league on both ABC and 7 (I suspect the ‘confirmation’ relates to the game needing to be a sellout in order to be shown live, which was confirmed in the following day’s Sun Herald). Also shown on NBN-3, but oddly not on WIN-4?

Melbourne - HUGE VFL coverage, the Channel 7 ‘Football Marathon’ started at midnight and there was coverage of the breakfast, all grades plus an evening replay and round ups! Pretty much 24 hours of VFL coverage that didn’t stop until 12.45am the next day! Evening highlights TWICE on the ABC as well.

Only the ABC showed the Sydney grand final, but at least they got a decent preview (from 1.45pm with kickoff at 3.15pm).

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Naughty WIN-4. A NSW station not airing the NSWRL grand final? Heresy! :rofl:

Yeah weird! And yet they showed the VFL one.. I can only think they took into account whether it was already live on the ABC or not (for both codes)…

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Well how easy is it to pick up Sydney channels in Wollongong?