Come back? The number of live games on FTA is as much as its ever been.
Iād like to see more games come back to FTA. In terms of every night and, honestly, every game. Itās Australian culture and an institution to most in southern states. Call me a dreamer just something I would like to see. I know you will say there is the same amount of games but I know there isnāt at the moment. I could go through and make a list but there is less games live across Australia on FTA than there has been previously.
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āas much as itās ever been?ā
Have you been watching Footy on FTA for less than a year?
In the 9/10 days, we have 4.5 games EVERY weekend. In the 7/10 days we had 4 games. Now we have mostly 3, sometimes 4 and on special weekends 5
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Itās the same amount? It hasnāt changed.
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They are talking about pre 2018
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Of course it has. Over the years itās decreased, 10 had two games 7 had two games. We now have a case where 7 have 3 games most weeks and the occasional 4th. Itās less games.
Maybe, but half of the games in the 9/10 and 7/10 eras were on delay. These days every game on 7 is live (apart from local market Fox simulcasts in R0-9)
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Quote my entire sentence or donāt quote met at all.
I didnāt say āas much as its ever beenā, I said āThe number of live games on FTA is as much as its ever beenā
Ch7, Ch9 and Ch10 all delayed games up until 2017. The current deal of 3.5 live games a week has been the same since 2018. The only difference now is that Saturdys have been replaced by Thursday and Sunday Nights.
In the past, during the bye rounds, 7 wouldnāt have games on a Sunday at all. This year they do. Swings and roundabouts - but the number of live games on FTA is still as high as its ever been.
Iirc 7 didnāt want to buy the Saturday afternoon games from Fox during the 2017 deal. It was speculated that 10 would buy those rights if Fox decided to sub-licence but Fox ended up not selling them.
For Victoria thatās true, for the rest of the country though ymmv.
The issue people raise about historic broadcast deals and their delayed coverage isnāt irrelevant though. Delays were the norm and expected back in the 00ās (up until 2017 was obviously pushing it though), just the way live matches are today. With that framing, an 18 team competition and those non Vic issues, itās getting harder for people to watch their teams without forking out a seemingly always increasing fee to Kayo/ Foxtel. Itās unsurprising a lot of people arenāt happy about it.
I get your point about having the most live games ever, and itās relevant too, but itās not the whole picture.
Just as an aside, there used to be a number of āhacksā to get kayo for free. Free with electricity providers, free with having an online bookie account, severely subsidised with a club membership etc. Theyāve really dried up in the last couple of years just ever so slightly heightening the issue.
In the 9/10 era, was anything other than the 1pm Sunday fixture on 9 live in Victoria? Iām thinking maybe Saturday nights but thought there may have been a 30 minute delay.
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Saturday nights were live if being played interstate, 30 minutes delay if played in Victoria.
Friday nights were also live on the odd occasions that the game was being played in Adelaide or Perth.
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To my knowledge, only Saturday night matches played outside of Victoria were broadcast live into Melbourne.
In Sydney, Swans matches were delayed by half an hour regardless of where it was being played, otherwise were delayed until at least 10:30pm, and in Brisbane Saturday night matches were live regardless of who was playing (between the 2007-11 period at least); Lions matches were always live (I think).
But I do recall in 2008, Swans matches played outside Sydney were live, including those played in Melbourne.
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Letās not forget the ridiculous 2007-2011 7/10/Fox era.
If the team outside Vic was a Fox game. The same game would be on 2 channels and the other game was not televised at all until the Fox replay some 36 hours later.
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Yeah, in 2008 I missed an Essendon Vs Cartlon game on a sunday afternoon because of this. Sydney was playing the Bulldogs in Canberra, so that was shown live at 1pm on Prime and Fox, with Essendonās 2pm game not seen until later that evening on Fox
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If youāre referring to round 13, the Swans played Melbourne.
They did play the Bulldogs in Canberra five rounds later.
That would be it then - they were the only teams to come to Canberra regularly. Now I remember sitting in the sun that day trying to get live scores of the game
That Bulldogs game a few weeks later I remember now being in the stands and the temp was hovering around 3-5 degrees
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Story in Crikey yesterday that Seven is so weak and Nine so resurgent that they foresee both major codes being on Nine from 2032.
Media journalist and Unmade founder Tim Burrowes told Crikey that Seven appears to be stuck.
āFor Seven, the only thing worse than winning [the football rights] is losing them,ā Burrowes said.
āThe dynamic at Seven when the [AFL] deal came along was that theyād seen what happened when Network 10 gave up its AFL rights [in 2011] ā the audience collapsed and never recovered.
āIf they lose the deal, they lose the audience, and thatās a much more immediate problem.ā
Burrowes said that investment appeared to be moving away from linear television.
āI think that dollars have moved away from television to other parts of the media, certainly platforms, faster than we know that they expected. Itās certainly faster than when they signed. If you look at the most recent set of numbers, it still suggests that thereās quite a big shift away from the networks.ā
The potential acquisition of AFL rights would see Nine hold the rights to both major football codes, which hasnāt happened since 2006 and is something that executive sources speaking to Crikey said may be a challenge. In any case, it is understood that the AFL is very satisfied with its current broadcast partners.
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FFSā¦ itās 7 years away.
So much could happen by then.
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DAZN not happy with AFL deal according to McGuire
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All I have to say to DAZN is
Suck it up buttercup, you didnāt have to buy Foxtel
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