No you shouldn’t if you believe in the legal system and rule of law. Otherwise you’re no better than Trump. A President pardoning his son is a gross misuse of power.
He’s now given up any moral high ground the Dems had and proven Trump right about him. It’s disgraceful IMO.
Might as well resign and make Kamala #47 till Inauguration Day now.
As a human coming close to the end of his life I cannot blame him for doing it. I don’t agree with pardons but it’s only human nature.
As for going down as one of the worst presidents. I don’t think this is going to do anything to harm that claim. It was already his for the taking.
I agree it’s a difficult situation. But Hunter Biden is a 54 year old man. He shouldn’t have allowed his father to do that if he was truly taking responsibility for his own actions.
Yeah I don’t know a lot of people with drug issues that do that.
Biden the worst President? How about the one just before him and now just after? Unlike trumpy, Biden has given a lifetime of public service. Pardoning Hunter is iffy but IMO the charges against him were politically motivated. I don’t get how sensible people are falling for the right wing hatred of Biden. He was and is a good man, even though I believe he should have called being a one term President and is mainly responsible for the Democrats loss.
When trump pardons the many insurrectionists from his ‘day of love’, that’s a different story.
I agree that when it comes to the worst president in history it’s hard to go past Trump 1.0 but beyond that…
The Republicans having a hard on by weaponising the issue of Hunter Biden was extremely excruciating and they’re definitely no clean skin when it comes to this, but ultimately Hunter was found guilty of the charges in a state court which isn’t dictated by Republicans.
Now whether or not a presidential pardon is justified or not, in his case it’s debatable, but if it was, anyone but Joe Biden can carry it out. With his father issuing a pardon of him when he made it clear earlier he didn’t intend to is not only a major backflip/about-face that doesn’t clean his son’s name, but it’s also ruined his own reputation as someone who upholds and defends the same democracy that he claims to love, and brings his integrity into question as it’s literally a Jail-Free Card for his family which is not what presidential pardons are meant to be. Mind you, pardoning the likes of Bannon and co by Trump is also completely unjustified but it’s apples and oranges comparison.
If Biden had stuck to his word and not used his pardon for his son of all people who’s been charged with a crime and indicted then he would be seen more favourable rather than running an obvious but clumsily put together protection racket. Now he’ll just look as corrupt and incapable as some of the worst in history (aka Trump 1.0, Gerald Ford with the pardoning of Nixon etc). Even if it was Kamala Harris or Trump himself that issued the pardon it wouldn’t be as big of a problem as Joe himself. He just needs to go away now.
Very good question. I thought Josh Shapiro was an excellent speaker during the summer, but I don’t know if his views on Israel (bit wishy-washy, against Netanyahu but also the campus protests) might hold him back? Andy Beshear could be a good bet, too.
AOC might be good as VP. She has that star quality around her, but that could just as easily work against her as it could help her.
Surely putting country and the integrity of the oval office first - ahead of personal desires - is one of the basic fundamentals of what it means to hold that title - President.
I think unless she brings her politics back ever so slightly back to the centre she’ll have a chance. She’s kind of like the Greens over here but a lot more tolerable, although if she was a VP candidate then the Presidential candidate will have to be a moderate in the same way that Biden was a moderate whilst Harris was a liberal.
I like Beshear too but he has to prove more than just being a ‘Southern Democrat’ which means, well, not a lot these days unlike the Clinton days when he was a superstar of sorts. Shapiro is good too but it will depend, as you say, on the issues in the Middle East. Harris lost Michigan and Wisconsin because she didn’t throw Biden under a bus on Israel when she should’ve. Newsom might be a bit too ‘woke’ for the electorate even though he’s technically a lot more successful and high profile than the rest of them.
It’s a shame that Tim Walz never really had a chance to shine as VP nominee, and having run with Harris, it means he’s now left in the cold (undeservedly). Otherwise he would also be a good choice for 2028 as presidential candidate himself.
Any politician engaging in insider trading and making hundreds of millions off the benefit of public office - as an illegal act - yes - as a taxpayer this concerns me more than Trumps criminal convictions of paying off a porn star. The allegation concerns me more than the conviction yes.
I’m sure many politicians do it – on both sides of the fence - she is just the most high profile one - as her portfolio is up by an alarmingly huge amount. More then most wall street bankers could dream of. It defies logic.
What exactly is f’d up with being concerned with politicians abusing power illegally?
Laws need be changed - and she and Trump and others need to be investigated.
100% agree but again you can’t blame him when his legacy is already grim. If I was in his spot I would probably do the same thing.
Look in Biden defence he inherited one of the worst terms possible. Coming out of covid with a border that had just had one of the worst crossings under trump, the highest unemployment rates for some time. But he was unable to achieve a lot due to having no real power in the house. And his legacy will be tarnished with two wars. A lot believe he participated in a genocide and in Ukraine some believe he limited their capacity to do more. It was a shambles of a presidency.
NO, nothing is worse than trump’s sexual assaults against women, including rape!
I’m probably gonna get slapped down for this, but I feel the first year for Biden went well, then it all went to shit. I think a big factor in it is age, I know it’s a contentious issue but if he was 10 years younger I think a lot of the missteps would have been avoided.
That’s not to say there are t good things that he did, but it was a big factor in his term.
Well you’re not biased at all are you.
Well we can. And I think many people are.
Not getting into a case of whataboutism, but Biden’s complicity in the slaughter of thousands of Palestinian children is horrific. Add in everything else he’s done and yeah, he’s been pretty bad.
He did a decent job navigating out of COVID and helped mitigate the predicted ‘red wave’ in the 2022 midterms but 2023 was when the wheels started falling off when he decided to run again and with his relentless one-sided support for Israel and negligence of Palestine (he even claims himself as a zionist) which really showed his selfish and stubborn nature, which carried into 2024 and contributed to the Democrats’ eventual downfall.
At the moment I think the guy’s just trolling now, or he’s deliberately trying to sink the Democrats as he leaves the White House and take his party down with him. Maybe it’s spite for what they did to him in forcing him to drop out? Maybe he still thought he could win? Maybe it’s because he’s become stupid? Wonders will never cease.
Innocent until proven guilty.
You can be concerned about the allegations but until it’s actually proven , or even investigated, you can’t say she’s guilty of anything. In fact that’s slander.
This is a cornerstone of society. Until it’s investigated and proven there is a presumption of innocence.