The X Factor

There we go I had conflicting information when i looked it up and thought it was only 26.

According to Wikipedia they sold 80 million albums which counts Mel B out. The only artists it could be based on the 300 million albums sold are Madonna or Elton John.

What happened to the days when an Australian singing contest had 3 well qualified Australian judges and everyone thought that was the way to go?

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Everyone was wrong…

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I take the 300million album thing with a grain of salt. Its probably some sort of extremely inflated figure (maybe including single sales as well). The only artists still around with >250mill are Madonna amd Elton John and neither would do X Factor (or even be anywhere within Sevens budget).

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Who is everyone?

And what contest are you even referring to? Australian Idol and (not-Australian) Dicko?

I’d love some variety and hope Cowell has organised a big name for the reboot of the Australian franchise, as I’m particularly undewhelmed with the ā€˜well-qualified Australian judge’ Guy Sebastian that just talks shit half the time.

Well back when we had Popstars, Australian Idol, original Australias Got Talent, the original X Factor and Popstars live people were pretty OK with Aussie judges. It’s only since Seven’s X Factor and The Voice came in have these shows found the need to get international artists.

I agree the internationals are overboard these days. 1 on a cast is enough but its a sign of our local music industry and how hard it is for Aussies to break through these days. At least there’s 2 Aussies on there I suppose better than last year.

Guy is a great judge. The most genuine there and his contestants almost always do well. He has more #1s than any Aussie male artists so hes more than qualified.

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In the 200-300 million category are the likes of Rihanna, Mariah and Celine Dion. My dollar is on Mariah Carey at the moment. I know she hasn’t sold 300 mill but as someone said it could be a very exaggerated figure.

The Voice, X-Factor, and Australian Idol have all had international judging panelists.

Australia’s Got Talent is not an ā€˜Australian singing contest’, and Popstars lasted two seconds.

The nostalgic recollection of Aussie judges on ā€˜Australian singing contests’ is simply false.

While Guy is qualified in terms of music sales, his comments are never on point and he speaks in cliches. Same way Chris Isaak was musically qualified but lacked the capability of being a judge.

It definitely is not false. It was not the norm to get international pop stars as judges until The Voice and Seven’s X Factor came along. Prior to that talent shows generally had Aussies (or people from record companies living in Aus) on the panels.

The original Popstars ran for 3 seasons with Jackie O, Chris Moss and Grant Thomas on the judging panel. Then we had the all Aussie Popstars Live panel as mentioned above. The original X Factor on Ten was an all Aussie cast with Kate Cebrano, Mark Holden and John Reid (who lives in Australia). Australian Idol as well was Aussie’s which had Dicko, Mark Holden, Kyle Sandilands, Marcia Hines and JD Springbett (British but lived in Australia). Also regardless of what you think AGT is still a talent show and the original lineup was once again Aussies with Dannii Minogue, Red Symons and Tom Burlinson.

Mariah hated being a judge on American Idol so I doubt she will ever be a talent show judge again. I’m guessing the 300million is either combined singles/albums or combined sales of the entire judging panel.

The main promo that I keep seeing at the moment doesn’t mention the underdog judge at all. It does mention a number of stars who will be making appearances this season though such as Jessica Mauboy, Robbie Williams, Little Mix and Olly Murrs.

Guest appearances are far from next gen, they’ve all been on before! Last year in fact! . Yawn…

To me, talking about Popstars, Popstars Live, original X-Factor and AGT as being representative, in any sense, of the genre just doesn’t make sense when you disregard the programmes that have actually, in fact, defined the genre in Australia - being Australian Idol, X Factor, and the Voice.

As for the names you have mentioned - vomit, vomit, vomit. Thank God we’ve moved on from ocker bogans on our television, simply because they were Australian.

OK well that’s just your opinion then if you want to disregard certain shows, but that would be what TV Cynic would have been referring too regarding Australian judges. In my opinion these are the shows that originally moulded the talent show genre as we know it today. Idol included. Seven’s X Factor and The Voice are the more recent incarnations that found the need to get international Popstars as judges.

Ok ladies let’s move on…

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The most recent promo…

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I’m really looking forward to this return, which says a lot as I have been put off talent shows the last couple of years. The re-brand is definitely appealing even if it’s still similar. The judging panel looks as good in the previews as I hoped they would be.

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Here is the format this year, for those interested.

Rap sensation IGGY AZALEA, Queen frontman ADAM LAMBERT and chart-topping singer/song writer GUY SEBASTIAN team up to find Australia’s next singing superstar in Channel Seven’s THE X FACTOR: NEXT GENERATION.

Hosted by JASON DUNDAS the upcoming seventh season of THE X FACTOR will witness a complete reimagining of the world’s most successful talent competition.

The three judges will build their categories unaware of the impending arrival of a fourth Underdog Judge who will lead a new category of contestants originally let go during the 3 Seat Challenge.

The Underdog Judge, one of the world’s biggest superstars, will not be content with second place. Nor will their contestants now they have been handed another, albeit final, chance of realising their dream.

This year, raw talent will be rewarded and refined like never before. With live experience in front of a studio audience and expert mentoring from the judges, contestants will be transformed into superstars.

Open to both solo performers and groups 14 years and over, once THE X FACTOR hopefuls make it past the audition process, the judges will initially split performers into three categories; Under 22, Over 22 and Groups.
The ultimate winner is awarded a recording contract with Sony Music Australia.

THE X FACTOR has proudly launched the careers of many successful Australian performers including Eurovision runner up Dami Im, Samantha Jade, Cyrus, Jai Waetford and popular duo Jess & Matt.

2016 SEASON FORMAT

AUDITIONS
At the beginning of the competition, all judges work together. After an act auditions on stage in front of a live audience, THE X FACTOR judges vote on whether they have what it takes to progress further in the competition. Performers need a majority vote in order to move to the next round.

BOOT CAMP
At Boot Camp, the judges put the contestants through their paces testing them on vocal and performance ability. Judges will listen to each contestant sing acapella and give them an immediate verdict. Adding immediacy and an extra level of reality to this cull heightens the connection between judge and performer making their final decision so much harder.

3 SEAT CHALLENGE
This brutal aspect of the competition returns and is the fi mountain for contestants
to climb before making it to the live shows. With each category down to a dozen acts but only three seats to fi the pressure couldn’t be greater. Hopefuls will literally have to outsing each other in order to secure their place in the competition.

LIVE SHOWS
Taking place twice a week, the live performance shows are where contestants begin to evolve as true artists. Working with their judges in addition to the industry’s best stylists, choreographers and musical directors their artistry begins to evolve while the Australian public votes for their favourite to stay in the competition.

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I Wonder if They’rell be a Flash Vote where Viewers at Home can get their Phones Ready to Flash on The X Factor App?

I still don’t get much from that article on the format of the live shows. Basically the earlier stages are as they have been in the past (with exception of this gimmicky underdog judge concept) however the live shows need to be different as they go for a much shorter period of time than previous seasons. Does 2 live shows a week mean not a performance and results show? We might get performances and results in both of those shows.

Whilst I like these for getting instant results, it’s pretty unfair that only 2 states would be able to vote this way.