If WIN were to sell all of their television interests, and their current Ten-affiliated stations were bought by CBS/Ten, what would happen to the JV channels WIN partly own (TDT, WDT etc) and what would happen in solus markets where WIN own/control all commercial stations? Would CBS have to purchase WIN’s interest in these channels too, and if not, is there a possibility they would close down?
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Of course not, under this hypothetical, they could choose which licences to offload if they didn’t want to or if they did not get sufficient offers for them.
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The other option is buying a bulletin from their competitors, as what happens in the UK on C4 and NZ on Prime. Some of the journo’s jobs could have been saved then. Time both bulletins so they’re not competing directly and you still get some form of affordable local journalism.
Cue flack, in 5, 4, 3, 2…
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In the USA, some bulletins appear on two stations, they are generically labelled and branded as such.
eg. “Hawaii News Now” airs on both CBS and NBC. In this case, because they have the same owner.
This would be more difficult to achieve in Australia, partly in getting stations to agree on formats etc.
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WIN needs to do more to attract viewers and advertisers. I think WIN could screen WIN News at 6pm in the regions it continues to serve. The screen an ecore on Ten BOLD at 6:30pm and 10Peach at 7pm.
WIN should also consider moving AAN or The Project encore to 10Peach and screening it instead of the first screening of The Late Late Show on 10Peach. At present WIN screens 4 hours less than Ten of infomercials throughout the week. WIN could the generate extra revenue by screening additional infomercials.
The other option would be to do what SCA did for a number of years and drop an encore of something throughout the day (eg Frasier on 10Peach 11 am weekday morning), perhaps for the full hour to make up for the loss overnight. Personally I hate infomercials, but if they have to screen in order for a network to survive, then do it - just as long as they dont do what NEC have done to GEM and be infomercial centre 1am to 10:30am most days.
Just ideas feel free to be as critical to these ideas and point out any flaws you see in my ideas
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I think that the WIN watermark logo isn’t Bruce Gordon’s favourite map, I would say it is this one that is the route from the L F Wade International Airport, St George’s, Bermuda to his home at Wreck Hill, Sandys, Bermuda.
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He’d have a luxury speedboat, surely? Practically a straight line.
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I was just thinking…surely if WIN are that hard up for cash, then Bruce logically should sell off his stakes in Nine and Prime to try and prop up the old horse for a little while longer? Or sell the whole thing off to someone who’s prepared to put in the effort and retire to Bermuda?
Or am I thinking too logically? 
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No.
The main problem of WIN since its change to regional affiliation (from Nine to TEN) from July 1 2016 at midnight was the watermarks. Their giant blue blob watermarks hanging down during the programs (except the TEN Eyewitness News and the WIN News). During the Big Bash (when TEN previously had the rights), WIN had a blue Australia Map ID watermark without the HD bug on Channel 50 (North NSW)/80 (rest of the areas). They did not even put a Live watermark on the screen. Many WIN Viewers were very annoyed with the stupid watermark that was hanging on the screen. (Except for Western Australia where the game was shunted to ONE). I was annoyed why WIN Television did not have the Live watermark where this match was played on a live telecast.
2ndly, THE WIN One and WIN Eleven coloured watermarks are very annoying. It took up 1/8th of a space and it was hard for them to watch on TV.
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WINs woes were what we wish wegional watchers won’t want watch (ever again!).
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At the time regional Victorians didn’t realise this including myself but that Sunday morning in October 1994 when VIC TV was taken over by WIN and everybody was looking at this new look regional Nine affiliate what actually we now can look back on as a sad for us!
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The watermark WIN used from July 1 to around mid December 2016, was the best watermark WIN has used for a long time & there was no green or purple cover up on One & Eleven, then WIN decided to change to the worst watermark of all time big blue mappy & the woes for WIN have continued non stop since then.
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WIN’s ratings have NOTHING to do with watermarks.
Southern Cross used a dirty feed when they were affiliated with Ten, and they were in the same boat that WIN now is. Explain that.
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But Now they are still using the watermark again! I think when will they get rid of the watermark shitstain?
Your wrong wins ratings Has a LOT to do with win watermarks ,people I have talked to even media people in have spoken to has said they have boycotted win coz of there watermarks
Agreed.
Even though WIN’s so-called “watermarks” are horrible across all their channels, a far bigger problem for both them and Ten in the metro areas (who’s watermarks are just fine) is that they’ve barely got any premium content of worth compared to their higher rating rivals.
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Ok mate.
As someone who has access to regional ratings everyday, I can tell you WIN’s ratings DID NOT collapse when they changed watermarks.
When you find RELIABLE definitive proof that says otherwise, then we can talk.
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What was the ratings like when WIN had TEN programming compard to Nine affiliation?
Archive goes back to 2016, the last year when WIN had the Nine affiliation: https://www.regionaltam.com.au/?page_id=19
For 2013-15: https://web.archive.org/web/20160301095049/http://www.regionaltam.com.au/?page_id=19
Interestingly, on the last full year of having the Nine affiliation (2015), WIN were beaten for the first time ever in their home market of Wollongong, in which Prime7 narrowly won the ratings year. WIN News was ranked 19th for the year in the list of regular programs, when it aired at the 7pm timeslot, and was averaging 40-50,000 viewers. Nowadays, they get somewhere between 10-20,000 viewers.
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