West Digital Television tonight:
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the Store Demo Loop Channel. The GOLDEN age of television. 
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This looks appalling.
It and 9Go! are atrocious.
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Terrestrial or VAST? Or are both just as bad?
Those were terrestrial. Theyâre just as bad as eachother, but Iâll post a direct comparison in a secâŚ
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Put 9Gem on SD and make Nine HD for the love of god.
Watching major general/sports live broadcasts at 1 pixel resolution must be fantastic.
Donât be fooled by that large resolution though. It still breaks up terribly during sport/fast movement
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I suppose as well, do you have a VAST fed (and thus re-muxed at the transmitter site) or a directly fed transmitter, that is if WIN/WDT even do that in WA, I assume GWN still have those various ad regions?
My thought was just around the idea that maybe itâs being re-encoded 2 or 3 times from the original output.
Oh dear.
What are the bitrates of these channels and how much do they have available?
Terrestrial DVB-T MPEG-2 ~4.0-4.4 MBit:
VAST DVB-S2 MPEG-4 ~1.0-1.5 MBit:
Basically identically atrocious.
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Might as well just put a phone in front of a TV in Perth and facetime every single person that gets WDT instead because that would be better than that picture quality.
Do WIN and GWN7 have the same issues with their picture?
There arenât any directly fed sites left. Theyâre all VAST-fed and remuxed on site.
Yes they do, but theyâre carried on VAST to feed those areas.
Definitely the source at MediaHub. Mildura, Griffith and Eastern SA are the same quality.
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Yeah but Imparja is also 1.0-1.5 MBit and itâs fine. Pretty normal for DVB-S2 to use these kinds of bandwidths on SD services.
I really hope WIN upgrades their link to Nine before July so these channels improve in quality. But I doubt it.
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Ah interesting - can VAST decoders switch out the correct one for your region, or do those show up on unique LCNs? Whatâs the second 7mate there?
Youâd think thereâd be call to starting to stop re-encoding, so they arenât constrained so much by terrestrial capacity.
Ideally go to main channel HD, re-encode that down to SD MPEG-2 as a single legacy service for old receivers, then pass that and all the rest straight through in MPEG-4.
(and I suppose to make this post WDT relevant - youâd really hope they get 10HD by doing just that)
VAST uses bouquets which are linked to the smart cardâs registered location, so it switches the correct relevant GWN7 in the channel list. The other two canât be accessed. My registered location is the Goldfields, which means my VAST box is assigned the GAW bouquet which gives me the same GWN7 thatâs shown terrestrially in the GWN7 Albany and Wheatbelt/Goldfields region.
The other two WA bouquets are GSW (South-West) and GNW (North-West) which show the remaining two GWN7âs respectively.
The first 7mate is the HD one for GSW and GAW. The second is an SD version for just GNW.
Absolutely there should be. Since 2013 when this launched, weâve seen multiple new channels and primary HD in all other regional markets now. As it stands, the current VAST-to-DVB-T setup canât handle more than 1xHD,4xSD in MPEG-2 and canât handle MPEG-4 mixed in with MPEG-2 at all as evidenced by WINâs transmission.
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So some viewers are stuck with an SD only 7mate?
Is WIN HD MPEG-2 terrestrially? I wonder if they would continue that structure or make Bold upscaled HD to fit with it just replacing Gem presumably once WDT goes back to Ten?
I assume the last time One basically stayed on the HD channel in many regional areas, but it would be odd to deliberately switch back to that.
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On terrestrial, yes. On VAST in GNW territory they get both - 7mate HD in the usual spot on 63, and 7mate SD on 73.
No, itâs MPEG-4 HD. WIN bucks the trend by being the only network trying to combine MPEG-4 with MPEG-2 using VAST as a source. They struggle to maintain bandwidth for each stream for obvious reasons. Someone visits a Tx, makes adjustments, then just leaves it to deteriorate to what it is now; unwatchable Sky News on WIN:
and very blocky WIN HD. Until the next manual adjustment. Digital TV in regional WA is just a fucking mess. Itâs outdated and of very poor quality.
Iâm putting my money on exactly that. Bare minimum, no primary HD, BOLD in upscaled. They donât really give their JVâs any special treatment unlike SCA.
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