Exactly.
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Indeed they do.
A bit insulting of @crossroads to call the presenters work experience children, everybody starts somewhere.
They’ve actually gotten better too.
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As folks here have mentioned already, it’s SCA’s responsibility given that 10’s only an affiliate and SCA run the joint in these regional markets. In fairness though the noodle updates they run are way better than what they used to be (the monstrosity of pre-2021 comes to mind).
Plus it’s also a legal obligation so I guess the emphasis is put the minimal amount of effort in.
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Hi everyone, I’m new here!
Just wondering if anyone knows how to see the local noodle updates for Ten News in Wagga (Riverina)? Do they air at a particular time, or just randomly? Also, is there a way to see them online?
Would be very thankful to anyone who could give me some info 
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Well this is a bit awkward…I’ve had over 13 years experience.
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They air at set times throughout the day monday-friday, split into morning, midday, afternoon, primetime.
Only time it would deviate from normal schedule is for special events or live sport, etc.
Wish I had more info than that, sorry (someone else may have these written down)
Edit: I have the news update schedule for SCAs 7 stations if anyone wants to see it.
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Luck of the draw. I’d assume if you watched everyday you’d find a pattern.
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The longer form daytime updates tend to be in the middle of ad breaks at around the half an hour mark. There is always one towards the end of Studio10 in the ad break and then another one in the ad break before the headlines recap on midday news.
Shorter evening ones are just inserted over the top of metro updates. Regional still gets the late national update from Perth.
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But I mean it’s essentially an entry level job, so it’s not a far stretch, especially when compared to other stations or the metros. That’s just the model they’ve come to use.
I am surprised 10 allows them to brand it identical to the metro news, you’d almost think 10 would be better to get SCA to pay them to make the updates.
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Though not sure if SCA could pay 10 enough - would 10 have any capacity/extra facilities to actually produce/present them. You’d think SCA has some economies of scale going, having their entire news production based in Tasmania and contributing to their Seven content as well, I assume.
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I love people taking opinion-based comments and insinuating insult, but I guess that’s what I’ve come to expect here.
Of course, people have to start from somewhere, but this is far from a good source experience.
Working without proper content or resources is not experience.
I know there are presenters out there who carry it like a badge of honour, “I had to set up my own camera, etc”, but this is far from even that level of production experience. When these journalists work up to other stations, they’re often unprepared for the step up to higher quality, or even worse, end up helping executives cut funding to news production even further.
From my perspective and in my local area, these haven’t gotten any better.
The use of what is essentially stock footage, that is completely unrelated to a story, is unacceptable.
Then you should know that things could be done much better.
The “work experience” comment was more aimed at the lack of proper wardrobe, make-up, news resources and proper production methods that should be used. The editing is choppy, rushed and poorly done. The V/O is often rushed, and scripts lack context (it’s a short window of time, I get it).
These updates are also far from informative and are, in my opinion, completely pointless.
Most of all, these comments aren’t aimed at the people making them, they are criticisms aimed at the executives running the regional outlets who believe this is an acceptable level of product.
Regional markets deserve much better, in fact, we’ve seen recently that we need to treat them with far better respect.
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Haven’t a number of these journalists ended up successfully stepping up to mainstream news outlets?
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My colleagues do read this thread. We’re all for constructive criticism but please do be mindful!
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Calling the presenters “work experience children” is a bit much. These SCA updates are a breeding ground for those who want to further their journalistic career. They also produce and research the stories for the regions they present.
They do a great job!
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That’s not their fault though. If you’re starting out and nobody is saying to you ‘tie your tie like this’ ‘this obscure place is pronounced like this’ ‘there’s a better way to write this’ then they’re not going to know.
These updates are a legal requirement for the most part, SCA provides them to keep their licence, not to be extremely informative. Watch old clips from years ago, the presenters were a bit better (Kathryn Robinson, Sarah Cumming etc) but the content was the same.
That’s very fair I think, the whole operation has been cut to the bone.
I think once upon a time they were, like the whole thing was used as a training ground (our SA bulletin too), but I don’t know if many have more recently.
I don’t think anybody would disagree.
They no doubt work hard, but the final product is far from great, as per the criticisms listed earlier (and constantly).
LOL isn’t it rule 101 of being a public figure, don’t read the comments?
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Curiosity gets the better of us. 
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I completely agree. Regional TV (and Tasmania is considered regional, and whether that is fair is a topic for another time) has always been where a fairly large percentage of journalists start their career. Most move on to major metro markets after they solidify their position and go on to have long lasting careers.
It bothers me when I read comments from people carrying on about how “bad” someone new is or how sloppy their speech and presentation are. Many have literally just started doing this and are thrown in the deep end. And yes, they are operating under extremely tight budgets - which I do agree is doing them a disservice, but that’s just the reality of an industry reliant on advertising which doesn’t bring in the money it used to.
No one is going to be perfect the minute they start. This is true for most jobs, but it is especially true when you have a camera and some bright ass lights in your face and know that many thousands of people are about to see your work.
If we didn’t have the likes of ex-Prime/GWN, WIN, SCA and the other small players that have been a part of Australian TV over the decades then a lot of the seasoned journalists we see presenting and reporting today would never have had a chance to get in to the industry.
There is nothing like real world experience. All the training and studying in the world is not the same as doing the real thing. Let them get that experience and watch them improve. They usually always do.
Yes, this is a discussion forum and this is a fair topic to discuss, but there is no need to insult them especially when we all know some of them are here.
To those being talked about just remember that the views of one are not the views of everyone. I think it is fair to say most of us value your work and appreciate that you are here with us. Keep doing what you are doing and go on to have an amazing career.
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Again, I want to make it extremely clear, my criticism isn’t aimed at them. They’re polishing a broken-down car.
Honestly, I’m sick of production people not getting treated with respect by executives, who are restricting the resources needed for a proper product. So, perhaps “work experience” was a bit harsh on that front, but at the same time, they’re not going to be getting paid well enough to do those gigs either - those staff deserve better resources.
Here is another point of contention. These legal requirements were set with the idea that the morals of the people running the stations would be reliable enough to think that the quality of presentation was important. However, we’ve long since jumped that shark.
Finally, I’m also looking at this through a profit ignorant lense, I know that FTA is struggling in certain regards… but ‘Best Sheds’ seem to have plenty of money for Sally Fitzgibbons to yell at me a fair bit, so they can’t be doing too badly either.
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Is there a website or app that could help with that? Could be a useful tool, not just for journos.