Thanks @RFBurns. Yes the idea was to make it as easy as possible to use. I would have liked to make a mouse click ‘execute’ or link button for all the tables, but that requires script knowledge & permissions from the list owner etc. It’s in the ‘too hard’ basket at the moment.
What did I miss? I recall immediately correcting an error/omission on Worksheet 11 (just rechecked now) when you highlighted last time. If you go to Worksheet 14. Table 2, input 69, you will see the conflicts ‘xx69’ NSW PI Code conflicts in Table 4 where the Sydney Nova & Newcastle hit1069 stations are populated in the table. Edit:maybe I should have made a note in the notes section of sheet 11.
Looking at those output results there’s also an immediate probable problem for some vehicle tuners between 98.5 3ONE & 96.9 hit96.9 in Shepparton & maybe Bendigo with same last two digits or does this problem only occur with the same 1st digit, ie. identical 1st, 3rd & 4th digits? The table sure shows up some interesting possibilities.
Back to Nova Sydney & hit1069 Newcastle; apparently both stations are using CRA recommended PI codes.
Across the ditch over in New Zealand, the two big radio networks Networks NZME & MediaWorks have both finally implemented song title & artist info in their RDS Radio Text.
Mediaworks only implemented this earlier in the week IIRC. It appears NZME may have only implemented it sometime earlier this year.
I don’t think it’s fully rolled out as yet as I noted recently that Coast (NZME) didn’t have it, but most of the music stations across those two large commercial networks now have it.
Some checking of a few Aussie RDS PI codes required.
Hot FM Darwin. Has this station changed PI code from 8001 to 82A3?
7XS Tasmania have they changed PI from 7921 to 7923?
Has 6NAM Northam changed PI code from 6965 to 696B?
Merredin, WA 105.1 recently reported as not having RDS. Is a report that in the past PI code of 6051 having been used.
Any further info or confirmation PI code pics might be helpful.
Both summer DX season regulars for me. Using the SDR# co-channel canceller, I can just hear 6NAM daily. I wonder if RDS data would be passed through, if the signal was strong enough.
1. 88.9 ‘Radio Skid Row’ made a recent change to their RT output, now only showing the one RT message (ex 2 messages), slightly changed the one former message to: Wake The Town Tell The People
2. Updated several Sydney RDS entries in our RDS Worksheet to include RT message change/update rates for those stations with dynamic RT messages.
3. Hope FM have recently made improvements to their both their RDS Group code chain with less unnecessary Group 3A & 11A outputs, that will result is faster & more reliable RT decoding for listeners. Also they’ve reduced their updating of RT messages from around 5-6 per minute to 4 -5 per minute.
4. Small change to the RDS Worksheet to have TCBL (labels) stations populated on Worksheet 14 tables 3 & 4 appear in blue colour text only under the callsign column.
5. Frozen RT message on KIIS 106.5, maybe maintenance?
6. 95.3 Smooth FM. Station only outputing Group 0A data, no 2A, 3A, 4A & 11A data. In English plain speak that means no RT, no Clock Time & no RT+. Maybe maintenance happening?
7. ABC Classic Sydney (92.9) still has badly slipping Clock Time, Group 4A. Can’t fathom why BAI/ABC can’t resolve these clock time/sync problems across half of the ABC RDS stations nationwide.
Me too @Brianc68 if only the end of them as very tiny one, fascinated by a new car radio and the novelty of being driven to Toowoomba and having to tube to AM for local stations.
AM stereo sounded great on 4AK & 4GR in the 90’s before ownership consolidation and radio went downhill.
Not that religion has anything to do with it, but literacy standards (particularly grammar and punctuation) have declined more generally in society. Is the Internet to blame?
No, it’s RDS’s fault… when you see the likes of SkyRacn, Seymr, ConectFM as the PS name… Shame whoever invented it restricted it to 8 characters as most radios have displays large enough to accommodate more…
The purpose of this new column is to both populate it & for user to check when the PI code for the specific transmitter of specific frequency has either last been reviewed or updated. The field is populated by the user with the date when the entry was last reviewed or added.
Why has the column been added?
Basically to provide a level of confidence to the engineer/technician when investigating PI code switching problems on how recent the data is for specific RDS station outlets. Or for dxers to assist with station IDs & to assist other dxers. Sometimes PI codes change for various technical reasons & it is good to know for both engineers/techs & dxers etc if the data is recent or not.
It is hoped that users of the worksheet could review all RDS PI codes in their vicinity or areas of travel or influence at least once every couple of years or maybe prior to annual SpE or tropo ducting seasons by dxers & the like. I’ve experienced incorrect RDS PI code switching during long haul dx.
I’ve provided RDS PI Code review dates over the past 2 to 3 years on Worksheet 11 (PI Codes), mainly in areas around Sydney, Brisbane/Sunshine Coast/Gold Coast & some of the Perth RDS outlets.
If people from other Australian regions can provide their own PI code Check dates within that column that would be great. Any PI changes must also be modified on the respective individual state based worksheets.
Also over the last week I’ve found a few more omissions from Worksheet 11 & added or amended the entries. In a nutshell, the worksheet comprehensiveness has improved.
Once the majority of Worksheet 11 PI codes have been reviewed there is scope to add a column to Table 3 on Worksheet 14 for PI check dates if engineers & techs or dxers would find that column useful in the future.
@ozbark Can you check if the latest Triple J Illawarra RDS trial has the AF active?
None of the work trucks are switching from 98.9 to 105.7 when both frequencies have strong enough signals for a RDS decode.
I am assuming it is similar set up to the permanent RDS for Classic Illawarra.
Well there’s a reason for that, as a colleague pointed out to me & it’s due to different news services between 98.9 Illawara & 105.7 Sydney.
For that reason & to avoid auto switching complaints from the public they (BAI/ABC) have now adopted a different PI code between Sydney & Illawara JJJ transmitters, similarly no AF between 98.9 & 105.7.
Yes different PI code & no AF pointing to each other.
Please visit/use our Australian RDS List (Google Sheets).
On a side note I discovered something interesting in the International RDS specs pertaining to AF’s, reading last year, in that you can program in a MW frequency as an AF, I assume group 0A and/or 0B, I can’t recall. Interesting I thought. So maybe a tuner could switch from a weak FM RDS station with a MW AF freq as the only stronger signal in the RDS station’s AF list. I doubt once switched from FM to MW that it could switch back from the MW frequency (as no RDS on MW) to the former FM outlet or another related frequency, but who knows, the smarts are always in the tuner.
I don’t know anywhere where a MW frequency AF has been implemented.
I did not know that, I thought Triple J news was the same statewide.
I know that RN Canberra has different news to Sydney, and the Goulburn translator on 97.9 takes the same feed as Sydney as they have the Sydney news not the Canberra bulletin.
Was news to me too, but…wiping the cobwebs from my memory, I do recall in comms many many years ago that there were subtle occasional differences in programming on triple J between some stations, eg Newcastle to Sydney or/& Sydney/Wollongong. Someone from Triple J programming or ABC Master Control might be able to elaborate further.
Hey thanks for the posting. Is this a temporary standby TX or a replacement TX there for the long term?
Do you know the PI code or other such RDS details? Most RDS data from txers with in-built RDS is fairly basic as I recall? Not sure if you use RDS Spy with an SDR or other RDS feature packed rx.
It was only two days ago I was thinking of removing 95.5 4WK from the RDS list, lucky I didn’t
Are they still transmitting on flea power/from an inferior site? Was once quite listenable (with RDS) in parts of Brisbane but hasn’t been heard here for some months now.
I wonder?
Can hear 102.7MHz is Brisbane, but not 95.5
Both 500W, but 95.5 directional with main lobe directed westward & only 100W
towards Brisbane. Still 95.5 antenna is meant to be 25m high & 102.7’s antenna lower at 20m & both from same tower per ACMA records.
Southern areas of Brisbane should have best reception from this TX site looking at the elevation profile in Google Earth.