Nine (Southern Cross)

[bubandbob]

Yeah, I mentioned this another topic (I think the WIN News section).

It definitely feels like a bargaining tactic. I expect Nine would be reticent to go back to WIN.

[tamago_otoko]

But I thought those newspapers were Independent. Always. ?

[bubandbob]

And Fox News is “Fair and Balanced”

[bubandbob]

IF, and it’s a big if, Nine does ditch SCA to go back to WIN, I’d expect there to be clauses regarding coverups and pre-empting Nine shows, especially news.

[Aurora]

The deals in place have had clauses on pre-empting network programming, particularly in prime-time for at least a decade.

[Willwalk]

@bacco007

This is an article that ostensibly is about a Nine affiliation, in a Nine newspaper. I cant help but feel like this is an attempt by Nine to make the upcoming negotiations a bit tricky for SCA, to what end I dont know (they may want to buy the TV stations, they may want to have another go around with WIN, are they trying to get more money out of SCA?)

I don’t know what 9 wants, WIN or SCA? If SCA can’t pay the money to 9, can they sell it to 9, the station in regional Queensland, southern NSW and regional Victoria?

[Willwalk]

I just remembered something. Didn’t the 9 network have a stake in TNQ, the owners of NQTV / QTV in the late 1980s / early 1990s? I’m sure they did but the stake was sold when WIN took over as the 9 affiliate in regional Queensland in 1991? Then SCA bought TNQ many years later.

[Moe]

@Willwalk

I don’t know what 9 wants, WIN or SCA?

Cash money without the financial risk of the losses of regional broadcasting. Why own loss making regional stations when you can take a cut of their revenue?

WIN have a much higher need to survive as a TV broadcaster, as they are nowhere near as diversified - so are more likely to be willing to pay Nine more. Nine would take their offer for sure if SCA wouldn’t match the money.

[Willwalk]

@Moe

WIN have a much higher need to survive as a TV broadcaster, as they are nowhere near as diversified - so are more likely to be willing to pay Nine more. Nine would take their offer for sure if SCA wouldn’t match the money.

If that happens, will WIN be willing to reinstate the dots? Are they going to cover the 9 logo up again?

[TV-QLD]

Not trying to stop the purpose of the forum but I’m a bit confused on why this is a discussion.

I don’t think any of these networks are looking for an affiliation swap right now (especially in the current climate) It’s such a pain in the ass for advertisers, viewers and basically everyone involved.

[WAtvVideos]

@bubandbob

IF, and it’s a big if, Nine does ditch SCA to go back to WIN, I’d expect there to be clauses regarding coverups and pre-empting Nine shows, especially news.

You could be right. You could tell there were clauses similar to this in WIN’s temporary agreement in 2016. WIN viewers suddenly got lots of Nine branded promotion in those 6 months.

[Willwalk]

@TV-QLD

I don’t think any of these networks are looking for an affiliation swap right now (especially in the current climate) It’s such a pain in the ass for advertisers, viewers and basically everyone involved.

I hope it doesn’t come to this. The best thing SCA should do is sell the regional Queensland, southern NSW, and regional Victoria station to 9.

[TV-QLD]

It will be a disadvantage for viewers if they swapped affiliates.

Most of Regional NSW will no longer have a Nine News Regional presence meaning there will only be Prime7 News as WIN axed a while ago. I doubt WIN would reinstate local news in the axed regions.

You may also not receive 9Life or 9Rush. 9Gem HD probably won’t happen either as it’s not even available now.

[Aurora]

WIN ran Life in their markets when they were affiliated with Nine very quickly.

[Moe]

@TV-QLD

Not trying to stop the purpose of the forum but I’m a bit confused on why this is a discussion.

Post above cites an article raising it as a possibility - Nine (Southern Cross) - #2368 by littlegezzybear

Clearly, SCA offered a higher revenue share than WIN did in the previous negotiations, but now WIN have had the best part of 5 years trying to survive on Ten affiliate levels of revenue and clearly will see better value in just stumping up a bit more to Nine. Plus, either way Nine get more cash if there’s a bidding war for their deal - unlike Seven who probably can’t extract quite as much from Prime as going to the market would result in.

As I posted in the news thread, I would hope that the stronger Nine affiliation would mean WIN could restore bulletins to regions they left, but that also assumes a future SCA deal would continue to include the deal to make local news in it - they could well decide to just go back to self producing those noodle updates - the Nine Updates out of Tasmania look good on TDT.

[Willwalk]

@Moe

As I posted in the news thread, I would hope that the stronger Nine affiliation would mean WIN could restore bulletins to regions they left, but that also assumes a future SCA deal would continue to include the deal to make local news in it - they could well decide to just go back to self producing those noodle updates - the Nine Updates out of Tasmania look good on TDT.

I very much doubt that WIN will reinstate the news in the areas where it was axed. Reinstating news maybe more a chance in bigger cities like Wollongong, Townsville or Canberra, but not so in areas like central west or wide bay or even Mackay

[Nick]

@Moe

Nine Updates out of Tasmania look good on TDT

Only since they were moved to Hobart and started caring about their production values. Using network graphics and occasionally adding file footage improved the updates greatly.

[Willwalk]

During the switchover In July 2016, would it have been better if southern cross had branded the stations in regional Queensland, southern NSW, ACT and regional Victoria as NBN TV in line with northern NSW, and sell these stations to the nine network at the same time as the switch over occurred? Would it have led to a better news service in line with NBN TV in northern NSW? Or would it have made no difference?

[Squee]

@Willwalk

During the switchover In July 2016, would it have been better if southern cross had branded the stations in regional Queensland, southern NSW, ACT and regional Victoria as NBN TV in line with northern NSW, and sell these stations to the nine network at the same time as the switch over occurred?

What does either of these have to do with the other? Why would they introduce a local Newcastle brand nationally rather than rebranding as Nine. Completely bizarre.

@Willwalk

Would it have led to a better news service in line with NBN TV in northern NSW? Or would it have made no difference?

Just because something is named a certain way wouldn’t mean that it would somehow result in a better service.

[littlegezzybear]

From what others have posted here, NBN is pretty much Nine 24/7 except for the 6:00pm NBN News and promos for that news.