Yeah, how dare a media forum discuss the launch of a new bulletin.
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My apologies for the coherency of the following question, but iâm wondering if anyone who has a better understanding of the behind the scenes playout can assist.
Iâm wondering if anyone can shed some light on what is likely to be the best way for Nine/SCA to playout the local feeds once the new News bulletins are rolled out.
Currently, take here in Townsville for example, SCA take the 9 Brisbane feed from NEC, and play it out mostly in its entirety apart from the ad breaks. This makes everything easy for SCA as they donât have to do much except switch to a local ad feed when required.
The addition of the new news bulletins seems to me to add a new level of complication to this scenario however, which has got me thinking.
Since NEC are already producing the news bulletins in their entirety for each local feed, as well as news updates, etc.
Is it possible that NEC might themselves generate a 9 Townsville, 9 Cairns, 9 Canberra, etc. feed of their own (obviously without ads), and just send these straight to SCA for use in each relevant market.
This would mean SCA would continue to only insert a local ad feed into the streams they are provided by NEC, with the bulletins, news updates, programming, etc. coming straight through from a localised feed relevant to each market generated by NEC in much they same way they already generate the Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, etc. feeds.
Itâs probably not likely to happen, but it seems to me like the easiest way to get each local market actually properly receiving their relevant 9 News bulletin, if NEC generated/programmed each individual market feed.
This could also be advantageous, as it would stop the capital city centric ads from slipping through to regional areas, as NEC would clearly not include those in the localised feeds.
Is it possible that this could be how playout will be handled, or is it more likely that SCA will just switch to a seperate feed for 1 hour during the news bulletins before switching back to the capital city feed for ACA at 7pm?
Somehow I feel, if the second scenario is the case, that there will be problems given SCAs track record.
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To me, the logical way is to send each local segment to SCA for them to play it out at the right time. Letâs hope that if this is the way Nine do it, they allow a few seconds of vision in the last story after the reporter signs off to pad out the switch to the local segment to avoid any studio shots leaking through.
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My guess would be that in the case of Queensland as the example, Nine would provide the local pre-recorded inserts to SCA sometime in the afternoon. At 6pm, Nine Brisbane would send one version of the State based bulletin to SCA just as they do now with the Brisbane bulletin. SCA would insert the appropriate pre-record for each market just as they do for adverts and promos at the moment; so the news shown between the first and second advert break possibly would be pre-recorded. I think this because I doubt that the NEC-SCA link would be able to handle the number of streams needed to supply one per market.
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Wouldnât Nine send the pre-recorded windows as files down the line to SCA.
SCA then plays those out off a server just like local commercials
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I agree with @TV.Cynic @KICK-IT and @WAtvVideos on this.
I will be interested to see how the transition from local news windows to the ad break will be handled.
Iâm guessing an âextendedâ version of the âCool Hand Lukeâ theme will be used here (assuming that one market will get a live local window like NBN does in Newcastle), so Nine wonât know if that will run for exactly 8 minutes or whatever when the other local windows are being recorded.
Sometimes on NBN News, the ad break playout music at the end of their pre-records can run for 30 seconds or more whilst they wait for the live Newcastle news to be finished, so that all markets go to the ad break at the same time.
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The bulletin format follows NBNâs style, so all audiences will get the exact same live feed, except for two local windows.
The local news window starts after the top three national/international stories.
Then weâre back together live for the middle part of the bulletin with national and international news.
Slpit again around 45â with pre-recorded sport and weather.
Then back together live for farewell and cute story about an animal.
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@CTC7-9-10 Great to have some inside knowledge!
So it sounds like the open will be a generic âThis is 9 NEWS - Southern NSW & ACTâ open, with only state & national headlines, rather than customized local opens with local images, branding and stories?
Will live crosses to newsrooms in Canberra, Wollongong and Wagga etc happen? Or live crosses to Nine network reporters for national stories such as Dreamworld, happen?
I am wondering whether the plan is to pre-record things like the local segments, sport, weather and the opener/closer on the new metro set (ie anything that involves wide shots) and then just have the live sections presented in front of a plasma in a separate studio.
I had assumed that they would need to be live from a proper set for sport/weather but if those segments are pre-recorded then it can all just be packaged together in the control room.
EEEK! Is that green screen and no set??
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YupâŚand with a pretty shitty backdrop as well.
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Maybe we can assume the regional set isnât 100% finished?
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Judging by the some of the screens in that pic, it looks like there might be localised backdrops (eg: Parliament House for Canberra, the lighthouse for Wollongong) for the local windows?
In any case, personally I would wait until we actually see some bulletins on air before giving out our final verdict.
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And thatâs probably what the final product will haveâŚ
At least its not one of the SCA two minute noodle update backdrops/graphics!
I think the localised windows will be green screen but the main chunck of the news will be a set.
I think I just figured this out - and itâs a scenario none of us thought of (and will be disappointing in a way)
If you look at these control room images, you will see the presenter is shot on green screen then keys in front of 4 different backdrops - the screens are labelled R1 R2 R3 R4 - each looks like a local image (Canberra Parliament, Wollongong Lighthouse and R3 R4 look like Dubbo/Wagga or Orange)
I think the entire bulletin will be done from green screen - and all 3 or 4 regions will get that exact bulletin (bar local windows) and then either Nine or SCA will key a local backdrop in for each region.
So Canberra will see Canberra backdrop for the whole hour.
Wagga will see Wagga backdrop for the whole hour. Gong will see the Gong for the whole hour.
So, the cool thing is - the backdrop will be local for the entire hour. The sucky thing is it will be no set - instead being like WIN with keyed sets. Ugh.
But those backdrops look shocking - so much shote and graphic swirls. Why not just have a clean shot of the city - the way all other Nine markets do. Why add all the messy graphics that donât look on brand.
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Yep, looking at the pictures I think you might be onto it.
Although, iâm wondering whether it might be a mix of yours and @eddelâs scenarios.
Where itâs a mix of studio shots/green screen depeending on what is being broadcast at the top (statewide/local feeds).
Given that theyâve already shown promos with the set, I highly doubt theyâll use green screen only.
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I donât see why they would do that - I think the idea is to have the whole bulletins form one backdrop.
They are terrible images they have chosen - Parliament House isnât right for Canberra, should be the CBD skyline. And for Wollongong - should be the skyline or city from the air. Dubbo it looks like they have an ugly steal bridge.
Better ideas would be:
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