The artists are weighing in too.
CHR airplay? I know Evacuate The Dancefloor got flogged on radio back in the day, donât know about the former though
Now the Album charts are going to be manipulated with streaming listens rather than sales. I still think itâs ridiculous to include streaming listens to the charts. They should only count each unique listener otherwise itâs like selling one album and counting the multiple times it was played rather than the sale.
^I suspected this was the case.
The charts have become meaningless now and comparing the charts today to the past is unfair to the legends of the past.
ARIA to use streaming figures using a complicated formula for album chart for the first time
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/music/aria-introduces-streaming-figures-to-australian-album-chart-for-the-first-time/news-story/1dd2970d9ac7da01bb172937ab52d144
I agree, only download/CD sales should be counted.
Then youâd get a much smaller sample size and completely ignore a whole subset of music listeners. You need to recognise the streaming figures somehow because that is a key way music is distributed now, more so than sales in most instances.
If you count just digital sales and CDs youâd be left with an ever decreasing sample size.
I agree streaming should be counted to the growth of a track. The thing I always come back to ask myself is if they used streaming would they use the big four - Soundcloud, Spotify, Pandora and Apple Music or all of them or one of them. There are so many streaming sites and some artists (like Taylor Swift) donât release their songs for streaming because of a multitude of reasons. It would kinda be unfair (some artists still donât post to Soundcloud, yet thatâs the largest streaming service). Soundcloud is dominated by one genre: Trap^. There are at least 12/16 songs that are of that genre (s/o to Flume) [1]
Take a Swift song, itâs only on a few streaming sites (I think Play Music and Apple Music), even though they garner a lot of radio play (and if they counted all streaming services) her tracks wouldnât chart as well and even though it would make the airwaves and charts more diverse but would hurt the bigger artists if it was this way.
It would be interesting though if it happened that way!
^Trap is then sectioned off into a load of other sub genres (Rap Trap, EDM Trap, Hard Trap, Hybrid Trap, Future Trap, Heaven Trap etc etc)
If they must measure streaming services then it should include all of them and it should be just unique listens. Itâs completely screwed up if theyâre measuring a song for having millions of listens and it comes out ahead compared to somgs that are multi-platinum sellers.
Both great points and I can be grateful Iâve now heard heaven trap. I think I read something that only 10 streams per person per day counted on charts? Canât remember if that was per track or what.
But which ten get counted then? I imagine there are people out there who could be listening to their favourite song ten times a day which potentially could artificially inflate the charts.
Unsure.
Hereâs the backgrounder to the charts: http://www.aria.com.au/pages/documents/ARIAChartCodeOfPractice-2016April.pdf
That was from a year ago. The recent announcement said album charts wete going to now include streaming joining singlrs charts which have already started using that method.
Pandora is looking for a buyer, with Sirius XM Satellite Radio being possibly interested. The company has lost almost US$500 million in the past 18 months.
Didnât their website layout just change significantly recently.
Theyâve got such a flawed algorithm. If you put in that you like Stairway to Heaven, some related tracks would be one of The Chainsmokers songs.
In saying that, I really like pandora and I hope someone (other than Spotify) buys then.
While reading about Sir Roger Moore this week, I came across what is possibly the worst ranking of Bond theme songs Iâve ever read:
Srsly
It is a shocking list. At least three in the top 10. including number 1, would be closer to the bottom in my opinion.
My first audible scoff came when I saw theyâd placed âwe have all the time in the worldâ dead last.
To me, Film scores are usually a bit clunky sounding, James Bond movies are no exception.
Even with Duran Duranâs âA View To A Killâ at #2 on that list, to my ears, it is not a song that flows anywhere near as well as their other big hits, like âThe Reflexâ or âGirls On Filmâ. But to me, it is still a better song than most of the others on that list.
In fairness, I donât recognise this song at all. I think itâs an injustice that Sam Smithâs âWritings on the Wallâ was so low and it won a Golden Globe and Academy Award for Best Original song, as did Adeleâs âSkyfallâ.
In my mind, these should be at the top of the list, not particularly in order:
- Shirley Basseyâs âGoldfingerâ and "âDiamond Are Foreverâ
- Paul McCartneyâs âLive and Let Dieâ
- Carly Simonâs âNobody Does It Betterâ
- Duran Duranâs âA View to a Killâ
- Sheena Eastonâs âFor Your Eyes Onlyâ
- Sam Smithâs âWritings on the Wallâ
- Adeleâs âSkyfallâ
- A-Haâs âThe Living Daylightâ
- Madonnaâs âDie Another Dayâ
Then all the rest which are less memorable or unknown.
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To me, Film scores are usually a bit clunky sounding, James Bond movies are no exception. Even with Duran Duranâs âA View To A Killâ at #2 on that list, to my ears, it is not a song that flows anywhere near as well as their other big hits, like âThe Reflexâ or âGirls On Filmâ. But to me, it is still a better song than most of the others on that list.[/quote]
I believe the artists were given a directive to sound a certain way for the theme which explains why that sounds so different to most of their music.
shudders
Spotify has the opposite problem. Whenever my playlist runs out, itâll start trying to find related tracks, but usually only from three or four artists.
So in 10 songs Iâll have some Client Liason come up three times.