Long distance television

The model number was TH-L32X30A

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Last night was the charts were indicating a half decent chance for TV signal enhancement for S.A. Surprise surprise, pretty much gone this morning again. Anyone even had anything in terms of long distance TV lately or has it just been dead?

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EDIT: Last night (14/4) was looking promising for Renmark for some tropo. Surprise surprise, all gone yet again this morning

Last time I had some form of long distance television in Renmark was January 15th, been pretty much dead since then

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Not really long distance television as such, but below is a good side by side antenna of before and after aggregation antenna set ups in Dubbo.

The house in the middle still has a high gain VHF antenna set up for CWN-6 and ABQN-11 from the Warrumbungles, which is 110km north. This was main site for Dubbo up until aggregation at the end of 1989.

On either side, you have the lower mounted UHF antennas for the Buninyong Hill side established for aggregation in 1990.

Note how all 3 houses still have the higher mast, with 2 of them having the VHF antenna seemingly removed now that its redundant.

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ABQN was originally on VHF-5 until around the beginning of 1990, when it shifted to VHF-11 just after aggregation in the Central West had occurred. It caused ABC TV in both Mudgee (which relayed its signal from Mt Cenn Cruaich) & Walgett to move from VHF-11 to UHF.

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Update for Tuesday: Charts now backing off of the tropo strength towards Mildura, looking less likely that we’ll see any form of VHF DX in Renmark. However it’s starting to look more favourable for a possible DX for the Crafers transmitter with high-strong tropo over a larger area.
Will be monitoring this over the next week. Could hopefully be able to pick up the Mildura transmitter, no doubt it’ll chop and change between now and then

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This morning in Renmark, not quite strong enough for a picture to decode and not quite strong enough to show up in the manual tuning interface. Close but not close enough

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Has anyone here in Sydney who has a deep-fringe UHF tried pointing their aerial west to see if Mount Canobolas comes in at all?

Curious as whilst the Orange FM stations are receivable for me on the car radio, I’ve never tried trying to get TV from Orange given the difficulty in adjusting the rooftop aerial.

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Given Orange occupies the same frequencies as Wollongong and Newcastle, I would say it would be very difficult to get Orange in Sydney.

I think you need good FM reception (30db or better) to have a chance at getting DVB reception from the same location.

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Due to the factors mentioned by Radiohead above, it’d be pretty much impossible (except perhaps during intense tropo) given that fortuitous reception from Knights Hill is so common in parts of the Sydney metropolitan area?

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I’d have thought with a yagi, you’d be able to reject signals coming in from the sides to some extent.

On that note, has anyone ever successfully received Newcastle DVB-T in Sydney? (Without tropo)

I’d say it would be possible but only with very unusual conditions. What I’ve found tends to happen is that having the presence of another signal even if off beam wipes out any possibility of reception. So enhanced reception from there would wipe out signals from Knights Hill but not itself be able to be received.

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This is what I’ve found too.

I’ve lost local Newcastle signals on an outdoor antenna pointed at Sugarloaf multiple times during summer because of the presence of Wollongong.

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Likewise, tropo from Newcastle kills my Wollongong reception even though under normal conditions, I get full signal strength and quality from Wollongong.

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About 19 years ago, I used to get a semi-permanent weak signal from ABCN1 Orange. No sign of Prime Orange (CBN8) due to the newly commissioned DTV transmissions in Sydney. No UHF signals were noted (Ch30, 33 and 39) but there is a chance that they may have been receivable. This was in the Windsor area of Sydney. I’d say people in around Kellyville Ridge and Schofields with a good view to the west would have had better reception from Orange as the Orange FM’ers can be heard quite well there. But no DTV given the frequency clashes.

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As a young boy our family often traveled to different parts of Victoria and I remember watching GLV8/BCV8 on different holidays and when visiting my grandparents who lived in Traralgon.

We lived in the northern suburbs of Melbourne and I started playing around with our TV antenna to see if we could get any of the regional stations, I was only around 10 at the time but was fairly interested in electronics and antennas.

I did some tuning and was able to pick up GLV8 which broadcast on VHF 8 back then, the picture was snowey and was usually only watchable in the mornings. As I got a bit older I did some more playing around and mounted our caravan antenna on the roof and could receive VIC TV from Ballarat on VHF 6, the signal seemed a little stronger than GLV8.

If I only knew back then what I know now about antennas, I’m confident I would have been able to receive reliable pictures with the right antenna and sweet spot. The house we lived in back then was in a slightly elevated position compared to where I live now.

I still enjoy looking at the different types of Antenna installations when I travel around for work.

I recently went to Ballarat and saw some interesting installations that date back prior to aggregation, it seems people would spend big $$ on set ups just to receive an extra channel.

This installation from Ballarat shows some stacked phased array VHF for Melbourne channels, another vertically polarised phased array for BCV8 and smaller yagis for the local channels, a rather nice set up.

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Welcome Andy, i use to live in Ballarat in 2010 to 2012 through and around, and the last house i lived in was 8 Walker Street and thoungh on Google Street you can see the Yagi on the roof but in the backyard (we were renting this place for about 11 months) was a couple of the arranged antennas in the back top level. (the place was on a hill and the yard was level 3 times)

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The house on the left with the 4 antennas looks like it has one for Melbourne FM radio (2nd highest antenna) as well as the Ballarat/Bendigo/Melbourne TV antennas.

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Few houses here in Renmark have a similar stacked setup for Adelaide transmissions back in the day.

Another weird setup in town but looks like a combo of radio and TV antennas

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Looks like an amateur radio set up

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