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FIND YOUR NEXT LIFE-CHANGING READ WITH JESS ROWE’S BIG SUMMER BOOK CLUB
Summer is the perfect time to unwind with a great book and Jess Rowe is here to guide you to your next page-turner with The Jess Rowe Big Summer Book Club on LiSTNR. In this exclusive series, Jess shares her favourite reads, explores the stories that have shaped her, and engages in heartfelt conversations with authors, taking listeners on a journey filled with laughter, reflection, and inspiration.
Embracing the summer spirit, Jess is bringing her trademark humour and honesty to The Jess Rowe Big Summer Book Club with seven episodes released weekly throughout December and January. Jess curates an eclectic collection of books that have brought her hope during her darkest moments, reveals the authors who empowered her to silence her critics, and shares the memoir her husband, Peter Overton, insisted she read – and why she couldn’t put it down.
In each episode, Jess shares intimate reflections on her chosen books, exploring themes like self-acceptance, mental health, and personal growth. She also sits down with her favourite authors and public figures – including Liane Moriarty, Jelena Dokic, and Julie Goodwin -diving deep into their work, stories, and lives.
Jess Rowe said: “I’ll be sharing some books that have resonated with me. It is quite an eclectic collection made up of what is on my bookshelf and in my Kindle – because you know how much I love reading my Kindle in bed at night! I hope these books will strike a chord with you and offer a lovely escape from everyday life.”
Sam Cavanagh, LiSTNR Head of Entertainment & Culture, said: “The Jess Rowe Big Summer Book Club is more than a reading list – it’s a celebration of storytelling and inspiration, perfect for lazy summer days or holiday road trips. Jess has built a community around her podcast that love to go deep on big topics. Through this series, her listeners will discover books that make them laugh, think, and feel – everything The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show podcast has become famous for.”
Episode 1 of The Jess Rowe: Big Summer Book Club is available to stream now on LiSTNR, with new episodes dropping weekly on Wednesday.
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Doubt we’ll ever see another “Gap Year”, they’re too rich now for it to work.
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To people who know more about podcast deals and contract negotiations than me… What do you think went down here? Has anyone acted improperly? Or is this normal when someone ends a podcast deal?
‘Callous and punitive’: Rosie Waterland launches own podcast network after battle with SCA
Award-winning podcaster Rosie Waterland has launched her own podcast network and will re-record old episodes after an ongoing dispute with SCA’s Listnr was finally resolved.
In various statements, Waterland has labelled the actions of Listnr “pointlessly callous and punitive”, and called on her listeners to use her network’s launch as an opportunity to “prove to the men in suits who co-opt the work of artists and creators that we can be bigger, and better, without them”.
Waterland had two podcasts with Listnr, Just The Gist and Mum Says My Memoir Is A Lie. When the deal with Listnr was dissolved, Waterland was unaware that she didn’t own the master recordings, or that she’d be unable to use the successful podcasts’ feeds.
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The article suggests something has gone down, but I’m not sure whether that’s particularly relevant or not - it seems like someone didn’t read their contract thoroughly enough, or didn’t ask enough questions before signing. I’d imagine these podcast networks/aggregators (whatever you want to call them) would have in their standard contracts that they control the IP that is produced
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To my understanding, there are 2 types of deals.
The first is where the podcast network simply distributes the podcast. This means that the podcast is recorded and produced offsite, and the network distributes it and sells advertising on it, and the creators get paid a share of the advertising revenue. The risk is predominantly on the creator as they don’t get paid if it tanks. This is what Rosie has now with Acast.
The second is where the podcast network actually produces the podcast. The creators are generally paid more like an employee (but it could also be on a revenue share basis). The podcast network will provide production staff to assist with content, editing, audio grabs, branding etc. The creator still gets paid if it tanks so it’s the podcast network taking the risk. This is what Rosie had with LiSTNR. Under this type of deal it’s rare for the creator be entitled to own the final product because they haven’t contributed 100% to it.
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“I had no idea I didn’t fully own my own creative work to begin with”
Someone didn’t read the contract.
That was my first thought.
I get it. You have created something amazing and decide to team up with someone who will promise you bums on seat, until you realise they want you to go down a different direction.
It’s their money and you can’t do anything about it. I just wonder if it was better to cop it on the chin and move on. Guess we’ll never know!
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That’s the catch with these platforms like iHeart, NOVA Podcasts and LiSTNR. The major networks give you a LOT more publicity and promotion and traffic to their platforms, but of course there’s always a catch.
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These podcast networks don’t operate on benevolent terms either - they are there to make money.
I think it’s a tad unfair to say there is a ‘catch’ with them - anyone working with them is doing so under commercial terms.
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Well clearly this podcaster mustn’t had been aware of it.
SCA Unveils World-Leading AdTech Innovation for Smarter Audio Campaigns
Southern Cross Austereo (SCA) has unveiled its most advanced LiSTNR AdTech product yet, LiSTNR Precision+, a groundbreaking, world-first evolution in digital audio advertising, set to launch in October.
This world-first innovation cements LiSTNR as the global benchmark in digital audio advertising technology, unlocking rich audience insights and enabling smarter digital campaign strategies. Powered by cutting-edge AI combined with first party data signals from both LiSTNR and brands, LiSTNR Precision+ delivers real-time optimisation, empowering brands and agencies to execute more targeted and impactful audio campaigns.
LiSTNR’s market-leading AdTech capabilities, combined with full ownership of its technology roadmap, enable SCA to innovate rapidly. This allows for the development of advanced AdTech tools to manage and deliver campaigns across channels, while tailoring market-specific solutions for Australian advertisers, while continually developing advanced AdTech products that drive measurable results.
“LiSTNR Precision+ is not just an evolution – it’s a revolution in how digital audio campaigns are planned, delivered and optimised,” said Olly Newton, Executive Head of LiSTNR Commercial. “With real-time data, AI-powered targeting, and a platform built in Australia for agencies and advertisers, purpose-built for local market trends, we’re giving brands the tools to make every advertising dollar work harder.”
Launched in March 2024, the award-winning LiSTNR AdTech platform has transformed digital audio advertising in Australia, delivering multiple world-first media campaigns. SCA has continued to lead innovation with a clear focus: making every advertising dollar work harder. Now, with the release of LiSTNR Precision+, SCA continues to set the benchmark for innovation in one of the fastest-growing advertising channels.
“Our ability to deeply understand audiences and dynamically reach them is transforming the marketing funnel,” said Newton. “LiSTNR Precision+ redefines what’s possible in audio advertising, delivering measurable results and real-time intelligence at scale.”
The LiSTNR AdTech Hub powers SCA’s latest innovation by delivering world-first capabilities that drive measurable results for agencies and brands. Built on LiSTNR’s fully owned ecosystem and its highly engaged audience of 2.4 million users, the Hub unlocks powerful tools including expanded Dynamic Creative Optimisation (DCO), using variable data sets including LiSTNR’s own first party data and Advertiser Data Matching via privacy-first clean room solutions.
As one of Australia’s fastest-growing advertising channels, digital audio continues to be a strategic focus for SCA. With the release of LiSTNR Precision+, SCA reaffirms its leadership in the space delivering innovative, results-driven solutions for brands and agencies seeking meaningful engagement and stronger ROI.
*Triton Streaming Metrics, Triton Podcast Metrics, & Edison – June 2025
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