General TV History

Did Dame Edna Everage had a Comedy Show On HSV 7 Back in 1988 like the Poster said?

yes The Dame Edna Experience which was a British production.

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I remember the same day in Melbourne and watching the first Seven Nightly News with Jennifer Keyte and Glenn Taylor. It was quite a revamp from what it had been the previous year as Seven National News. That first bulletin was commercial free up until sport I remember. I probably watched the first half-hour episode of Home And Away that came before it but it is a series I never really got attached to.

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Torvill & Dean Theme…

And Tracy…

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It was a crazy time for CTC, it had four logos between 1988 and 1991. Below is the “flag” which ran from winter 1981 to September 1988 and the “ribbon” which ran from Jan 1991 to Feb 1995. (Ten Capital from 1995-2001, then Southern Cross Ten until 2016).

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Multichannel suited the larger, denser markets (like Canberra and Newcastle) but would disadvantage low density markets (all of Prime’s territory). You can imagine which stations were in favour of what models.

CTC was anti aggregation all the way, but lent support to multichannel. Why would they want to share one of the most lucrative regional markets with anyone?

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I always liked how the 3 circles that formed the TEN logo morphed into the 5 stars in that Capital station ID.

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I hated it at the time, as I thought it was taking the station further away from the network’s identity. CTC had basically been a small Channel Ten for the previous two-and-a-half years.

Looking back now though, it really was a nice graphic and was a MILLION times better than Prime’s offering of the same era.

Though I never really knew why Curran bothered with the “Capital” brand - he could have just continued with Ten. Perhaps it was to delineate a clear difference in fringe areas like Wollongong.

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I first visited Canberra in 1992 so naturally I was watching Prime, WIN and Capital to see what they looked like and so on Capital I saw the Ten ident start and I thought oh they just do a Channel Ten ident, that’s a bit disappointing, but then to see the end result… I think it was a very seamless integration of the metro ident and the regional brand. Very well done.

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I think Charles Curran’s company was called Capital Holdings, that was probably why.
Though he did also own Ten in Adelaide and Perth, but they were still known as TEN on air.

Yes it was. Still not sure why he went to the expense of creating a parallel brand though. A lot of time and money was spent re-badging promos. For Adelaide for example, he just splashed the word “Adelaide” next to the ten circle.

In fact, he sold Capital Television to Southern Cross in 1994 - but held on to Ten Adelaide and Perth for a little while longer and his company was still called Capital Television Group Ltd.

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In those days regional networks might have piggy backed or adapted promos off metro networks but still maintained their own brands. It wasn’t really until QTV became Ten Queensland that it became a thing to have regional affiliates take on metro branding. Then there was Seven Queensland, Ten Victoria, Seven Darwin/Central, Ten Northern, and so on…

Plus there was the heritage of the Capital (7) name which was familiar to Canberrans so there was that link to the channel that they had been watching for years.

And just the fact Canberra = Capital. It made sense as Canberra was their home base.

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The capital version of “the entertainment network” promo is probably the only one that was on air during my childhood that has always stuck in my head. No idea what Win was doing st the time, and only really recall Prime’s stuff from the “this is where we live” days onwards.

pretty much just using Nine idents and promos with a WIN logo IIRC.

Program promos were not very meticulously adapted from what I recall from 1992. They’d use the original Nine v/o but just wipe out “…on Nine” at the end but never replaced it with “on WIN”

The PRG was quite good too I seem to recall. I think it was a spinning yellow star that shrunk to take its place in the Capital logo? My memory is a bit vague after 26 years so it might not be exactly that.

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I can only remember the static image one off the top of my head.

All went downhill once they rebranded as Ten Capital. The in-house stuff SC Ten put our water horrendous - replacing the ten button idents with the star logo, making their own button idents with the weather presenter… shudder.

Did QTV ever do something with their own logo but trying to adapt Ten’s idents, or did they just keep using those ‘The Place To Be’ idents they seemed to rush together after ditching the dotty logo?

It would have been fairly simple to adapt the ending of them to utilise the kind of branding they shifted to - forgive the mock out of place…

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Now you mention it you may be right. I think the logo animation was used in promos but possibly just a static PRG. This is what happens getting old :persevere:

I think they kept the Place To Be idents until it became Ten Queensland.

Love the Ten Capital mock though :sunglasses:

Ten Qld had an animating logo that would pop up mid-segment back in the mid-late 90s. The ten logo should fade in, then spin around into a smiley face, then spin back around to a ten logo before fading out…

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No, that’s not true mate. “Capital Ten” started in 1988 just before aggregation. Canberra had the X logo, same as all the metros. The X logo was used for Capital in the Canberra region and Illawarra until the change to 10TV Australia (the ‘regional’ logo is below). All the promos used in the ad breaks were pure TEN branding and the Canberra produced news was TEN News.

QTV changed to Ten Queensland for the same reason as Capital 7 changed to Capital Ten: it was owned by the Ten Network at the time. The same thing happened to 7 Queensland, 9 Darwin and NBN is pretty much gone.

I’m wondering why Curran steered away from the network for Capital in 1991, when it was already ‘matching’ the network and he’d owned it for well over a year as 10 TV Australia (Capital). This decision led to a lot of effort to re-badge promos for no real gain, especially for a low profit network.

Southern Cross simply re-named it ‘Ten Capital’ in 95. No reason Curran couldn’t have done that.

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Yes, there was definitely a spinning star, but I think it was only used in promos and not as part of a PRG.
This was around 1994.

I still remember walking into a pub at Coonabarabran back then and seeing it on telly - I was quite amazed, probably more because I had thought Coonabarabran would have received NBN and NRTV and not WIN and Capital.

I just had a look on Youtube for an example of it but couldn’t find one.