Surprised how little this has been part of the commentary. Someone on ABC should bring up the map. Aston is neighboring 3 of the liberals very few remaining seats all now marginal. East of Melbourne is the new western Sydney.
Dutton will be throwing Pesutto under the bus on Insiders tomorrow. All his fault I can guarantee it. Dutton will be deflecting this, likely wonât see him back in Victoria campaigning ever again. He will keep his distance at the next QLD election also.
Even at the next Federal election, Menzies and Deakin are essentially now Labor.
Hell with the way votes are going Aston is not only looking to be a Labor, but a SAFE Labor seat in one swipe
Must be because they were too woke and needs to be the more extreme far right style that Dutton has perfected over the years
I donât know about that. Labor might be popular statewide but for some bizarre reason the state leans Liberal federally. Being from Queensland also means he gets that natural advantage especially in his electorate area.
Although to quote one of the residents who live in Dickson and was interviewed by Sky in 2018: âI donât like Peter Dutton. Heâs a rat.â
Qld may generally lean Liberal federally but Dutton isnât popular in Qld either.
Hmmm I think metro Brisbane definitely heâs a dud (even though I have no idea why Dickson keeps voting him back in year after year).
Gold Coast, Maroochydore and rural Queensland however I can see him being somewhat popular since heâs all about cost of living and jobs in coal industries up in that part of the world which is what most people seem to care about up there. Not to mention some of those places (especially on the GC and Sunshine Coast) have never voted Labor federally or in a state election.
Iâve got friends and family all over Queensland and nope, heâs not as popular as he would have you believe. In fact most people think heâs horrible. Many regional Qlders vote Liberal federally, many are rusted on, but that doesnât mean they like Dutton. In fact in my view the Dutton factor would have a zero positive impact on Liberal votes in Qld, itâs probably a net negative effect. This is where the Libs have made a grave tactical error if they think Dutton will help their Qld vote. It wonât.
As for Dickson I wonât make too much comment but itâs one of those outer metro areas, aspirational, increasingly marginalised, increasingly Hillsongy. Families in McMansions on small blocks with huge mortgages and school fees they canât afford. Bad transport links. In short all the elements there for angry voters. Say no more.
So according to Sky the âwoke Libs lost the by-electionâ. Theyâre blaming the gender of the candidate and that why preselected a woman as the reason for their loss. And of course they werenât right wing enough.
I really appreciate your insights as a local @Brianc68.
Queenslandâs certainly a very interesting place politically, especially the South East corner. The north and East of Brisbane seems to be Liberal friendly (Longman, Bowman, Petrie, Bonner, Dickson), the centre has turned Green (Ryan, Griffith, Brisbane) whilst the South, Ipswich and Logan is rusted on Labor areas (Rankin, Lilley, Blair, Moreton, Oxley).
The Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast are almost rusted on Liberal/National voters and seems like theyâve never really been progressive federally. I shall not talk more about the rural areas. I think we all know what itâs like.
Back to Victoria, for Labor and Albo to win Aston (a Liberal stronghold no less) in a by-election is an absolutely extraordinary feat. Aston electors are very clever to see that behind that shiny potato head of Duttonâs there is very little substance behind the Liberalsâ attacks and âNos to everythingâ.
Thereâs also this
Thereâs also this
https://twitter.com/annabelcrabb/status/1642288877863067648?s=20
Itâs another example of where Queenslanders can tend to vote differently at different levels of government. Brisbane has had Liberal Lord Mayors since about 2004. Many people who vote Liberal for Brisbane City Council vote Labor at State elections. Even I have done it! Itâs a similar phenomenon to regional Queensland voting Labor at State level and Liberal at Federal level. People vote for their best interests and the best candidates, sometimes regardless of parties. Iâm generally a Labor voter Federally and at State level but have voted Liberal at council level (Campbell Newman and Sallyanne Atkinson) because the Liberals tend to âget things doneâ in Brisbane itself. Interestingly when Joh had a stranglehold of the State government in the 70s and into the early 80s, Brisbane City Council had one of itâs longest runs of Labor Lord Mayors. For context for people interstate who may not be aware, Brisbane City Council is quite a big deal as itâs by far the most populous city LGA in the country with over a million people under the one council and a budget bigger than Tasmaniaâs.
That overgrown beetroot in an akubra defending Dutton on Sunrise as âvery successful in the state of Queenslandâ and how Labor winning is like waving to the crowd on the first lap of the 1500m sprint. Then makes this whole conversation about the voice which he has already opposed very openly.
And to think this guy was once our deputy PM.
Adrian Schrinner was touted as a future premier for QLD wasnât he?
Adrian Schrinner was touted as a future premier for QLD wasnât he?
Not to my knowledge, but it wouldnât be the first time a Liberal Lord Mayor of Brisbane jumped to State politics and became premier - Campbell Newman did it. Personally I would rate Schrinner above Newman.
Probably doesnât come as much of a surprise but the entire Coalition is now opposing the voice to parliament.
Liberal Party confirms opposition to Voice to Parliament
Opposition Leader Peter Dutton announces the Liberals' formal opposition to the federal government's model for an Indigenous Voice to Parliament, after a party room meeting in Canberra.
Potentially we could be seeing the likes of Bridget Archer (who IIRC supports the voice) and some other moderates defect to the crossbench Andrew Gee style.
I mean, this is just a moronic move overall from the Coalition. Oppose as much as they want but what recommendations/better solutions do they have to recognise our First Nations people more than just a ârecognition in the constitution by wordâ? Or do they just want to keep the historical atrocities they have done to the First Nations people under the doona and pretend that no one remembers?
Clearly they havenât learnt from the recent bloodbaths at elections/by-elections that Australians want to socially progressive nation.
EDIT: Bridget Archer has confirmed she will support the voice against the party position.
iâd be very surprised if Bridget Archer gets to the end of this term inside the liberal party. The liberal platform is a minefield of reasons to become a Teal. A loss to the libs, she is what the new generation should look like.
Wasnât the general consensus on the Teal candidates that they wouldâve all been prime small-l liberal candidates with high education, good wealth, strong profiles and progressive social views combined with conservative economic ideologies?
Maybe we need the Teals to become the new (and proper) liberal party whilst the coalition lurch further towards (or going back to) becoming the new UAP or One Nation.
Fair call, although Iâd argue that when weâre in as big a budget deficit as we are that it does end up usually being a case of one or the other. Still, to be fair, the voice is a better use of that money than say something like the submarine deal. And in fairness to the government though, itâs hardly as though the âno-alitionâ is any better especially given their policies have largely been the cause of this situation. As far as the Housing Australia Fund goes, itâs an OK start but still very âŚ
To expand on what I touched on here (in a more appropriate topic), as far as the Housing Australia Fund goes I do find that while it is an OK start, itâs still quite underwhelming overall in my view.
Iâd love to see something like the Million Programme that Sweden rolled out in the '60s introduced here, especially being targeted to a mix of income levels.
Million Programme
The Million Programme (Swedish: Miljonprogrammet) was a large public housing program implemented in Sweden between 1965 and 1974 by the governing Swedish Social Democratic Party to ensure the availability of affordable, high quality housing to all Swedish citizens. The program sought to construct one million new housing dwellings over a ten-year period, which it accomplished.[a] As part of its intention to modernize Swedish housing, it also demolished many older buildings that national and loc At...
itâs still quite underwhelming overall in my view.
I think itâs a case of getting it started. No doubt the Albanese government is going to work slowly to repair this problem and address it in a reasonable manner that doesnât blow the budget. Though I question whether thatâs the case when theyâve spent a what seems like an infinite amount of money on nuclear submarines just to counter the rise of China which is a not something that I support though thatâs another issue.
The Coalition have had nine years to deal with the housing crisis yet theyâve done the square root of f all. All they did was supposedly âstand up for jobs and workersâ and appeal to the coal loving bogans.