Federal Politics

Won’t be long until the Libs dump Dutton for Frydenberg to save the furniture

Its pretty diverse. In Knoxfield and Ferntree Gully there are a lot of older empty nesters that have probably lived in their big family homes for generations. Wantirna has a lot of Chinese, Rowville is a growth suburb with a lot of first generation Australians, particularly of Indians, and the East has a lot of cashed up bogan tradies.

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If it were today, which way would you vote in the referendum on an Indigenous Voice to Parliament?
  • Yes (for)
  • No (against)

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Alan Tudge officially announced his resignation during federal parliament session this afternoon.

What??? They can’t. Frydenberg lost his seat. He’s not in Parliament.

actually they can, and the libs have done it before, albeit only on a state level - Campbell Newman lead the Libs form outside parliament (with a proxy in the chamber) to victory.

In this case however, the talk is Fry-Dem-Books will run in Tudge’s Seat

This is a man who to this day has no empathy for genuinely innocent people whose only crime was to be on the wrong side of a dodgy spreadsheet formula. I doubt any of them will be shedding a tear at his departure.

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What happens if he loses again? :wink:

She’ll be the far left’s Craig Kelly! You mark my words…

I believe lot of the Liberal wets were desperate for Frydenberg to keep his seat for this very reason. Joe Hildebrand even wrote a column urging everyone in that electorate to vote for him:

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/joe-hildebrand-why-labor-voters-in-kooyong-need-to-vote-for-josh-frydenberg/news-story/4a3774b6ce0db2e78c91ea51133ba2d0

I doubt that. Frydenberg isn’t running. I wouldn’t write off Dutton. The wheels will fall off for Albo as the effects of inflation bite… rising cost of living and interest rates impact will not be forgiven by voters.

Though if voters were smart they’d see that this started before the election when the Liberals were still in power. And even if there is an alternative policy approach, the Coalition (and especially Dutton) isn’t the answer.

If all voters cared about were the cost of living instead of the whole picture (economy, national security, integrity, climate change, reconciliation etc) then excuse the blunt language, but it would just show how selfish and short-sighted those said voters are because they’re all about ‘me me me’ instead of the greater good.

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most people will understand that rates has nowhere to go BUT up as they were basically paying you to take a loan during COVID, and inflation is caused by issues beyond this goverments control - Ukraine for example.

there is also very little the government can do - of they did a cash splash they would actully increase inflation and would do more harm than good.

Far more damaging for the LNP would be things like Robodebt, Jobs for the boys and under the table donations

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Way too much time and energy spent on the ridiculous ‘voice’ which is doomed to fail.

Labor is pedalling a radical social agenda and ignoring what matters most, as all Fabian socialists do. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing.

The backlash is already tracking which is why “doctor” Jim did a door stop interview in shirt sleeves yesterday talking about cost of living pressures for the first time since being elected. Lol.

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Never thought voting for what you want to focus was an issue . I agree that there is important issues to focus on but people are not selfish for voting with what they are thinking of the time. When I voted against the libs it was because I didn’t see any way they could help the country move forward except be political and keep down a certain sector of the population with their reidicilous laws. How is that selfish? What is selfish is you telling people how to vote.

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Josh Frydenberg is now earning big money at Goldman Sachs.

If he does run again it will be in Kooyong. I think he will probably stay out though, just as Costello has.

Major difference however in that Costello chose to leave parliament, Frydenberg did not.

At least their social agenda is something that is benefiting the entire nation, unlike the Coalition whose last attempt at a social agenda before the election failed with their own MPs crossing the floor in opposition. What is wrong with the intention of implementing a voice or something that recognises Indigenous people.

As for the cost of living, if you think Labor hasn’t done well, what exactly do you think they should do in this case? Force the hands of the Reserve Bank who’s totally independent and lower interest rates which will make life worse? Use coal as energy source? Hand out more financial payments even though that’ll increase debt and inflation? They can’t win with your constant bleating that they’re not good enough to manage the economy.

That is not selfish. That’s the reality. For too long (9 years) people have constantly voted for one and one thing only and that is the illusion that the country is better off economically under the Liberals, which suggests that people are only voting so they can benefit financially instead of looking at other aspects of social and national security reform. You might not like it but it’s what it is.

I don’t think you can call cost of living a ‘me me me’ issue, as you suggested the other day. It affects a big portion of the population.

I think the economy and financial benefit is more important than social reform. National security is different issue, but the economy should receive much more priority over social reform IMO.

Recognition is already there, as it has been for decades with all citizens, no one has greater importance IMO. We’re already spending billions on welfare and “social justice”. I want better value for the dollar already being spent, we’re in debt that future generations (and the current) are already wasting billions on servicing that cannot otherwise be used to benefit the country within its own means.

That is not the real reason. The real reason was that Labor were obviously not good enough in their campaigns and policies to be voted in, that was the reason.

As far as I’m concerned, the current government is doing a decent job on social issues. I don’t necessarily agree with them on everything, but that’s the way of the world.

Where they’ve been really disappointing though is in their feeble response to the housing crisis. While the root causes are not their fault, with inflation being primarily driven by global markets and the housing market in it’s current state as a result of decades of mismanagement and neglect, their responses have been pretty underwhelming and fail to address the root causes. Also seems like this issue is an afterthought to them and that they spend a disproportionate amount of time, effort and money on things like the voice, which, while well intentioned, is something that’s only going to benefit a small minority and seems to be more the pet project of a select group of academics and activists as opposed to something that will tangibly improve the lives of those living in remote communities.

For those in mortgage stress due to interest rates, I’d recommend that they permit people to be able to use their superannuation towards servicing the interest component of their mortgages. Like super contributions, it’s still going towards an asset that will help reduce reliance on the public purse in old age, while also assisting with keeping a roof over their head now. After all, you can’t live in a super fund.

With the rental crisis, the root of the issue is a lack of public housing. Building swathes of cheap prefab medium density apartment blocks, similar to the post war schemes in many parts of the world including here, would be a massive help at clearing the housing backlog and reducing the amount of people in inappropriate and insecure housing. They may not be glamourous but at least they’ll be a place to live.
This would at least take some of the pressure off the rental market and would be in the best interests of landlords too, as they are much maligned at the moment and take the brunt of renter’s anger especially when it comes to issues like keeping pets and the like.

Both measures would help take the heat out of the rental/housing markets, reduce the impact of inflation when it comes to housing costs, and help the tens to hundreds of thousands of people who are homeless or in inadequate housing.

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