A good appointment. Was the last Australian PM to serve more than one consecutive term
Donât think so. The last one would surely be John Howard. Everyone since then has either served a half-baked term or that plus one term.
It can depend on how you view terms. For example Julia Gillard became P.M unopposed and was re-elected to the post in 2010, thereby elected to another term in office.
Same applied to Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison.
John Howard was elected to consecutive terms at elections.
Huh?? Rudd was elected and served an incomplete term and was ousted by Gillard, then she was (re-)elected and served an incomplete term before being ousted by Rudd.
The last PM to serve a full term election-to-election was ScoMo 2019-22. The last one to serve more than one full consecutive term was Howard, serving four terms 1996-2007.
Just on this. One wonders if Rudd wasnât rolled by Gillard back in 2010 (or if Gillard wasnât rolled by Rudd in 2013) would we have been spared the disastrous 9 years of Coalition rule by the likes of Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison?
I think Rudd wouldâve scraped back with a majority instead of the hung parliament in 2010 and at worst Gillard wouldâve been able to keep her hung parliament in 2013 if Rudd didnât oust her.
I have always believed Rudd would have scraped in in 2010 had Gillard not ousted him. I firmly believe he would have retained a majority.
Agreed. The decision was so out of touch with the public goodwill towards Rudd, even at that stage.
Rudd wouldâve retained between 77 and 81 seats in the House in 2010 and not wouldâve relied on the Greens or independents in a minority government.
Agreed. The decision was so out of touch with the public goodwill towards Rudd, even at that stage.
It really irks me to this day that neither Labor nor Gillard will admit an error, or acknowledge the likelihood it cost them majority government. Regardless of the pros and cons of Rudd it was an astounding blunder.
Morgan Poll showing support for YES 53 to 30 NO
53% of Australians would vote âYesâ to establish an âAboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice to Parliamentâ
A slim majority of 53% of Australians would vote âYesâ to establish an âAboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice to Parliamentâ, compared to 30% who would vote âNoâ and a further 17% are undecided.
There are large differences based on voting intention in regards to âThe Voiceâ with 76% of ALP supporters and 89% of Greens supporters indicating they would vote âYesâ to establish the âVoice to Parliamentâ. Only 9% of ALP supporters and just 2% of Greens supporters would vote âNoâ.
In contrast, nearly two-thirds of L-NP supporters, 64%, would vote âNoâ to establishing a âVoice to Parliamentâ compared to only 15% who would vote âYesâ. Over a fifth of L-NP supporters, 21%, are undecided on which way they would vote.
Support for a âVoice to Parliamentâ by State:
- New South Wales: Yes (52%) cf. No (29%) cf. Undecided (19%);
- Victoria: Yes (55%) cf. No (28%) cf. Undecided (17%);
- Queensland: Yes (44%) cf. No (38%) cf. Undecided (18%);
- Western Australia: Yes (63%) cf. No (26%) cf. Undecided (11%);
- South Australia: Yes (54%) cf. No (33%) cf. Undecided (13%);
- Tasmania: Yes (68%) cf. No (24%) cf. Undecided (8%).
Latest Morgan poll
Morgan Poll showing support for YES 53 to 30 NO
53% of Australians would vote âYesâ to establish an âAboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice to Parliamentâ
A slim majority of 53% of Australians would vote âYesâ to establish an âAboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice to Parliamentâ, compared to 30% who would vote âNoâ and a further 17% are undecided.
There are large differences based on voting intention in regards to âThe Voiceâ with 76% of ALP supporters and 89% of Greens supporters indicating they would vote âYesâ to establish the âVoice to Parliamentâ. Only 9% of ALP supporters and just 2% of Greens supporters would vote âNoâ.
In contrast, nearly two-thirds of L-NP supporters, 64%, would vote âNoâ to establishing a âVoice to Parliamentâ compared to only 15% who would vote âYesâ. Over a fifth of L-NP supporters, 21%, are undecided on which way they would vote.
Support for a âVoice to Parliamentâ by State:
- New South Wales: Yes (52%) cf. No (29%) cf. Undecided (19%);
- Victoria: Yes (55%) cf. No (28%) cf. Undecided (17%);
- Queensland: Yes (44%) cf. No (38%) cf. Undecided (18%);
- Western Australia: Yes (63%) cf. No (26%) cf. Undecided (11%);
- South Australia: Yes (54%) cf. No (33%) cf. Undecided (13%);
- Tasmania: Yes (68%) cf. No (24%) cf. Undecided (8%).
That was interesting until I read the sample size was less than 1,500 people. With a poll that small I would take it with a grain of salt. Mind you it is the first poll Iâve seen that specifically asks for voting intention.
Caroline Kennedy is the US ambassador to Australia
Yes because Labor is about action in decision whilst the Coalition is all talk, no action.
Since the election Labor has:
Wage rise to low income earners
Planning a way to close the gap through the Voice to Parliament (itâs pretty symbolic, whether one agrees with it or not)
Legislated net zero by 2050
Working with different stakeholders in different regions and negotiating with different groups in government.
Established the NACC
Restored Australiaâs authority on the international stage, including our relationship with France, The Pacific, the Quad, AUKUS and China.
Subsidised childcare and medication to make it more affordable.
Put into action the energy price relief plan despite the coalition moaning and crying a river about it
Granting the Biloela family permanent visas after the clusterf Dutton and Morrison put them through.
And much moreâŠ
Haters can say everything they want but the fact is Labor has done more in 7 months than the Liberals in the past 9 years combined.
It really irks me to this day that neither Labor nor Gillard will admit an error, or acknowledge the likelihood it cost them majority government. Regardless of the pros and cons of Rudd it was an astounding blunder.
In a Seven News report tonight on his appointment comments were made about him being a âcontrol freakâ, ânarcissistâ etc according to staff. I found that hard to believe and thought he was a good leader during his first stint and wasnât worth being rolled. Besides, if Rudd were those descriptions then what about the trash Abbott and Morrison that we got half a decade later and had to endure for almost a decade?
Gillard shouldâve waited for her time to come. If Rudd decided to step down or did something that was horrendously bad then she wouldâve been able to jump in and lose nothing. But like Paul Keating she didnât bide her time and the result was she didnât even make it to a full term without Abbott and them throwing shot after shot which worked for them in the end.
Scott Morrisonâs poor standing led to Liberalsâ âmost seriousâ election loss,...
Review says perceptions former PM failed on Covid and âwas not attuned to the concerns of womenâ drove result
Sky News: âThe woke Liberal Party are unfairly criticising themselves and itâs all Laborâs fault.â
LOL
They have no idea nobody is buying the rubbish they are peddling. Out of touch in the Victorian election. Out of touch now.
So the review didnât find that they need to lurch further to the extreme right than they already are???
Funny that. Sky news is telling us that they arenât conservative enough and were too woke
So they blame their loss on Labor matching everything they did and better as well as the Teals for existing instead of the fact that they are a useless rabble?
Federal MP Andrew Gee quits National Party over Indigenous Voice stance
The federal Member for Calare, Andrew Gee, is resigning from the National Party effective immediately over its opposition to the Indigenous Voice to Parliament.
Andrew Gee is one of the few âbetterâ National MPs in the parliament (other than Darren Chester) so itâs another blow to the Nationals and Coalition.
Whatâs the bet that in the new year more of them will drop like flies?