While Labor is still in an election-winning position, it would be concerning for them that their primary vote has dropped four points over the last two weeks (even if two of those points have gone to The Greens). If it drops even more, the whole narrative of the campaign will shift significantly.
Not really that concerning or surprising coming out of a budget where money was thrown everywhere.
Albanese failing to land a significant blow in the polls again - starting to wonder if he can win this by his own efforts or will it be because Morrison (inevitably) does something stupid
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Albanese is the only thing making me question voting for Labor - and I think many people are probably feeling the same way. He may appeal to hardcore Labor fanatics, but those are not the people who will decide this election.
I suspect we will very quickly see them start pushing the senior ministry into the spotlight rather than making the whole campaign about âAlboâ which has clearly been the plan. It also doesnât bode well for leadership stability if Labor does get in.
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Why? The Libs are just as bad.
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You could always just tune out and it will be full of six weeks of Labor lies too.
Anyway I kept away from this thread for my own my mental health but now that a date has been called I do fall into question the boring element and personalities we have as front runners for the top spot. I mean after all Scott Morrison is not the sharpest tool in the closet so if we see another liberal form majority government (which I personally feel is most likely outcome and better for Australia in terms of handling business and economy but not much so for handling social issues) and Anthony Albenese. I am not sure what this guy stands for heâs hiding something and always take pre approved questions why canât he do an off the cuff questions?
.I think Kevin Rudd was the only one that did pretty well in that regard.
Anyway I will eat my words if Labor wins the federal election. Donât think they will be able to form a majority government on their own.
One of the key issues that will be Laborâs downfall is the Covid pandemic. Will they force lock down again ? Itâs been two years and some normalcy has come back across the world or will they wrap Australians in a cotton wool? Maybe the leadership.
I donât get why they couldnât go with a female leader they have a few good women that could actually destroy Scomo.
Thatâs just me. Maybe Iâm looking at this too simplistic. The next six weeks will make or break both parties.
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Are they? For better or worse Scott Morrison is the first PM to serve a full term since John Howard.
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Sure but only managed that feat after Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull ended up the same way as Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd.
The only reason Scott Morrison has lasted this long is because the bloodletting from the 2018 spill and the 2019 election saw a lot of his factional enemies exit the stage. Abbott lost his seat, Mathias Cormann quit, Chris Pyne quit, Turnbull called a by election, Julie Bishop quit. Without any of them around, it was a fresh start for him.
I really doubt Peter Dutton will stay loyal in the next term of parliament - here is someone who during the final days of the Turnbull government declared it was âmy timeâ to be PM. The fact he has been so well behaved during this last term is remarkable.
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This shows a lot of peoples misconception and lack of education about how a democracy and politics work.
My main concerns with Labor is that Anthony Albanese has never held a Treasurer, or even Shadow Treasurer, portfolio. And I also donât rate many of his colleagues who could become Ministers if Labor form government. They donât do much for me. Just leftovers from the Rudd/Gillard era. I also worry about internal disputes within the Labor Party if they form government. Couldnât see Albanese lasting a full term.
Iâll save my predictions for the predictions thread.
Since when is being a Treasurer or Shadow Treasurer a qualification for being Prime Minister?
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Knowing what the Liberals are like I wouldnât be surprised if they will be the first (if not already had) to have internal disputes or spills.
Labor isnât as good as they could be and Albo could be stronger but for me their motivations and policies are much more enticing than the Liberals and their constant scaremongering and ignorant stance on the most important things.
What internal disputes? Do you not worry about the same ones in the liberal party?
IMO Laborâs factions and internal culture is more brutal. Just look at what happened with Kimberly Kitching and Wong, Keneally and Gallagher.
I should comment on the Libs too, they have their issues. Scott Morrison is not a great leader IMO, heâs just a salesperson and is not of the same level as former PMs.
I just saw an ad for Labor advertising all their policies, but interestingly, no mention of climate change. Interesting because Albo mentions climate in his speeches, press conferences etc., but Labor are keeping quiet about it in ads.
Obviously itâs not a qualification but itâs preferable, because it gives them a better idea of spending and managing money responsibly.
Thereâs more to leadership than just spending money.
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Couldnât name interest rate figure or unemployment levels. Also lied by telling us petrol prices are $2.20 - sorry Albo in Sydney theyâve levelled back to $159.9
Perhaps in Tasmania they are $1.99 but you didnât fill up yourself. Paid by taxpayers.
So just like Turnbull, Abbott, Rudd, Gillard, Hawke, Fraser, WhitlamâŚ
The ever increasing debt under Morrison both as PM and Treasurer doesnât concern you? The days of the Libs being better managers of money are long gone.
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only because they changed the rules that prevented leadership spills from happening. If it wasnât for that he probably would have been gone long ago.
Have you seen Scottâs press conferences? If he gets a question he doesnât like he protests âI reject the premise of your questionâ then gives a non-answer and prompts a friendly journo to ask a cushy question, or he just wraps it up and walks away.
Thatâs probably more a state issue than a federal one. In any case I donât think anyone has said a word about further lockdowns.
Have you seen even just a few headlines recently about internal disputes in the Liberal party?
I donât think this is the big fail that people are suggesting it is. It is hardly Hewsonâs birthday cake GST moment.
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Albo screwed up that presser today and the Libs will probably use that footage to their advantage. I cannot believe he didnât know the cash rate. Pretty common knowledge across the traps. Unemployment rate has been talked about everywhere.
How the heck did he not know these two basic numbers? I think it was even in the budget speech from Josh.
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