Driving & Traffic

They do stand out but at the same time…fugly. :joy:

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NSW always seem to go out of their way to be different. Like how they insisted on surrounded the highway numbers (eg. M1 etc.) with a white box which was actually against the national standard. I think they’ve finally dropped that nonsense now.

I dunno. I kinda like them. And it’s pretty hard to stray onto a toll road by mistake.

Note in the first pic there are a couple of examples of the blue on white for points of interest (Brisbane Airport and a Service Centre in the background)

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You’d think Google Maps could be smart enough to realise that road signs aren’t number plates…

I can’t think of anywhere that Melbourne puts a tolled destination like that - like for example you stretch the truth to say you can get to the ‘City’ via M2, where you need to take an exit and go through the suburbs to do so without a toll. The Victorian way of showing an airport destination looks nicer I think.
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Where there’s a connecting exit it’s much clearer though,
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I like how the arrow changes from white to gold pointing towards the toll road lol. I don’t think I’ve seen that one here.

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The bordered alphanumeric route markers are better, it’s a retrograde step going borderless

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Somehow I just knew you’d be of that opinion. In my view the borders were pointless and they seem to get by without them elsewhere (every other state, UK, etc.). Europe does it but I don’t see how they would be considered “better”. NSW exceptionalism at its best. Just like the refusal to use the blue and yellow for toll roads to be consistent with the other two eastern states.

I agree, I think it makes them look a little bit cleaner, I don’t think we can really make a point for there being any sense of real standardisation - vaguely being close is pretty good.

One fun example is that the A20, which dramatically changes based on state - SA/Vic/NSW respectively
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The weirder NSW thing in this seems to be not using the abbreviated forms of the roads, being the only one not to write “HWY”

I know that’s an old example of a Victorian one because of the vicroads, but it doesn’t look great by comparison.

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I don’t recall them ever dropping the box around the highway/motorway numbers but if they did, they’re definitely back now. The new sign at Rozelle has them and every image I’ve seen online has them too.

This is a sign that was erected on King Georges Road just before M8 Toll road opened and a toll was added to the M5 to pay for it.

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They were dropped earlier this year (or maybe late last year) - new signage needs to reflect the borderless design but there will still be a decent amount of signage that was procured before the changeover (like on the Rozelle interchange)

Fluorescent yellow on green often blends in - the border brings attention to the route marker

Sorry but the yellow on blue looks awful and can be incredibly difficult to read (especially as the sign ages)

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Some US jurisdictions experimented with white-on-purple signs for toll roads.

(Picture source: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=21280.0)

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Yuck. Some colours should not be seen.

It’s just as hard to read as yellow-on-blue for me!

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I’ve never once found a yellow on blue sign hard to read.

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Some are abbreviated if its a long name, as below

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Depends how great your vision is. I struggle with some colour combinations and that yellow on blue is certainly not as clear as the whote on green. In fact, I think all signs should be white on colour, except black on yellow. In NSW, the danger and warning are red and yellow.

This is an expanded view of the signs at the Rozelle interchange which was the problem yesterday. There are three warning signs for speed cameras and the tunnel warning signs in red and yellow.

It’s not so clear but further in the distance is another road sign which is more accurate. It shows Sydney straight ahead and Port Botany M8 Toll towards the right.

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VicRoads hasn’t updated much of, especially rural, the states road signage in about 20-25 years, as seen by how dilapidated and rusty/mouldy/faded so many are. That federal ‘National Highway’ shield (previously used to indicate for federal budgets and main interstate arterial links) hasn’t even been in use for over a decade!

I did use to like that previous long-running template however, as it was distinct and unique to Victoria, from the thick white edging as opposed to a white border line to the various shields (first to implement the 90s alphanumeric system too which is also different to other states both the amount of classes and how they’re determined) to the state roads authority’s logo being present. As of about a decade ago, they now match most states signage like Nsw and the colour scheme and fonts are a little different too.

In Victoria, tollways (AKA tolled freeways or simply toll roads) are always a blue sign with yellow writing.

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The road markings were added overnight.


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If an urgent need for an alternative to the West Gate Bridge wasn’t already evident, be it West Gate Tunnel/Distributor/East West Link… Friday’s ‘carmageddon’ (as 3AW was reporting) after closures from a truck v car fatality which gridlocked the entire inner-city and west and today’s cement truck fire again highlight it!

https://twitter.com/VicTraffic/status/1729347837593604596?s=19

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