Digital TV Technical Discussion

What channel was it? 6? because 60 is already HD am i wrong?

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It was a scroller that was promoting the change. Could have been accidentally shown here instead of WA

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Is it really that hard?
How would that work in the metro overlap areas, the regional stations play different ads to the metro so you can’t have 2 different channels with the same LCN?

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7 regional starting with 7 Queensland have multiple different HD channels to the metro areas & they are all mpeg4 whereas the metro areas are still a mix of SD/HD, mpeg 2 & mpeg 4.
Eventually all 7regional will be the same as 7 Queensland, the metro areas might then change later.

If you pick up two or more stations from different areas that have the same LCN, the highest powered one will be given the correct LCN with the rest given 350 and above.

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7 Central is owned by Southern Cross Austereo, whereas 7 Queensland is owned by 7 West Media (owners of the Seven Network). Since each has a different owner, what happens in one doesn’t mean it’ll happen in the other.

Yes, & that’s likely to piss off more people having to tune into 350 plus channels than 6 something channels.

Sorry yes, I meant 7 Queensland, not Central. SWM owned.

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Given that 7 in (most of?) regional Queensland has put all channels into MPEG4, with more HD offerings than in metro area, there must have been little viewer backlash. Otherwise it would have reverted to MPEG2.

So isn’t it about time the metro stations on all networks drop the MPEG2 simulcast of their main channels and put the MPEG4 HD channel onto 2, 3, 7, 9 and either 1 or 10. Alternatively keep the SD simulcasts for a “changeover” period on 21, 71 and so on.

And please, I’m looking at you Nine Network, dump the SD simulcasts of Go and Gem. It would free up some bits to make the HD channels look better. Especially during sports etc. where fast action looks pretty poor.

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Seven will own the whole country soon if reports in the AFR are correct (bar Griffith, Mt Gambier/Loxton) so having national LCN’s will make sense. The ABC and SBS have national LCN’s. Including SBS in metro/regional overlap areas where in some states there are different ads on the overlap services.
Darwin has metro LCN’s as does Central/East VAST even though one area is regional market and the other is classed as a remote market.

I was about to make a really watertight post about how the guidelines clearly state Seven regional affiliates (non-metro and STQ) need to be on the 6xx allocation.

I then remembered the Nine on 5 era.

Carry on.

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What guidelines? Has always been a gentlemen’s agreement between broadcasters AFAIK?

I note this changed in 2016, previously it was explicitly specified that Ten Affiliates / Regionals were assigned 5xx and Nine Affiliates / Regionals on 8xx (although there are still remnants of this in Appendix A)

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No doubt changed because WIN refused to give up the 8/8x LCNs despite becoming a Ten affiliate from 2016-2021.

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Seven already uses 7 and 7x in all of the regional Queensland aggregated market, except for the Sunshine Coast and Toowoomba, where they use 6 & 6x due to many people being able to receive 7 & 7x channels from Brisbane.

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Not an official ACMA document or Govt mandated through legislation as such. Being FACTS, now Free TV, an industry or gentlemen’s agreement which is only a guideline. And yes, not followed by WIN when SCA requested a swap of the 800 range with the 500 range during the Nine/Ten affiliation swap a few years back. And 7QLD never followed it for most of their stations when they started DTV being Seven already owned 7QLD when DTV started.