Digital TV Technical Discussion

Hmmm, I’m not seeing that on Sydney (via Central Coast) on my Fetch… I’ll try the inbuilt TV tuner and/or Sydney VHF. Have done a rescan on the Fetch too.

Update - TV tuner detects 77 from both Sydney and Central Coast. Seems like a Fetch issue… I’ll post this in the Fetch TV thread and contact their support team.

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Oh no, how will we survive without TVSN! :wink:

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I know! :rofl:

I’m just one of those pedants that like having all available TV channels viewable, even if I have no intention of watching it!

I’ll be interested to hear the Fetch response given I can see LCN 67 (7 Regional TVSN) on it.

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Correct. I’m in Sydney so it’s 77 for me.

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Not sure if this is new or not…

In the Orange / Central West NSW market, LCN 5 / 50 is labelled as 10 Central West and 10 HD Central West (I had thought they were labelled as “Orange” as 7 and 9 do).

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It has been like that since at least 2018, back when it was affiliated with Nine.

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Is the transmitter in Lorne still functional withe regional commercial channels? mySwitch is saying that ‘the service is not operated by this broadcaster.’ It says that for Anglesea as well.

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Not sure about their operational status, but the license is active - https://web.acma.gov.au/rrl/assignment_search.lookup?pEFL_ID=1598366 - that’s the BCV example but the others are in the mega list of those RBA holdings licenses.

It’s a retransmission license not a commercial service, so that’s why myswitch says not operated by the broadcaster.

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This is a concept of what the channels may look like for South West Victoria to separate it from Ballarat.
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ABC TV

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

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SBS ONE

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

5

10 Sth West

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

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7 Sth West

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

8

Ch9 Sth West

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

20

ABCTV HD

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

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ABC TV

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

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ABC Kids/ABC Family

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

23

ABC Entertains

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

24

ABC NEWS

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

30

SBS ONE HD

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

31

SBS VICELAND HD

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

32

SBS World Movies

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

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SBS Food

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

34

NITV HD

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

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SBS WorldWatch

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

36

NITV

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

50

10 HD Sth West

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

51

10 Sth West

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

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10 Peach

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

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10 BOLD

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

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Nickelodeon

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

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SBN

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

56

Sky News Regional

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

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gecko

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

60

7HD Sth West

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

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7 Sth West

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

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7two Sth West

SDTV 576i (MPEG-2)

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7mateHD Sth West

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

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7Bravo

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

66

7flix

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

67

TVSN

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

68

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

80

9HD Sth West

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

81

9Gem

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

82

9Go!

HDTV 1080i (MPEG-4)

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9Life

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

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TVSN

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

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GOLD

SDTV 576i (MPEG-4)

Is this just a hypothetical, or is such a feed being established?

Either way, what TXs would be included in a ‘South West’ feed?

Colac / Warrion Hill
Warrambool/Tower Hill
Hamilton / Mt Dundas
Horsham / Mt Arapiles
Nhill / Mt Lawloit

Which then would leave Ballarat with just Lookout Hill and Ballarat East pretty much?

Are the Geelong transmitters counted as Melbourne or do they have separate advertising?

Yes, Geelong is a 100% straight relay of Melbourne.

I don’t think you’ll ever see an increase in feed splitting - they aren’t exactly swimming in potential advertisers - and the only ones you could possibly gain would be low value ones who are hyper local, and the costs of generating and delivering the additional feeds would likely never pay off.

I’m pretty sure on most regional multichannels there are now statewide feeds with only the main channel, with things like the local news programming being with local ads, and if it weren’t for those rules, you’d probably not have the splits you do now.

If anything you might see a reduction in those splits - down to the bare minimum markets to meet content rules.

They are locked into an SFN with other Melbourne region translators so couldn’t have unique content. Vast majority of households also just point to the main Mt Dandenong transmitters, as it was only in the digital only era that those translators became high powered enough to cover more than just a small bit of the hilly part of Highton.

This is just a concept I thought of.

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Noted today that Channel 7 Darling Downs main channel has changed from MPEG2 HD to H.264 HD
That means all their channels are H.264.
They have not had a SD version of their Main channel for some times but have made the jump to Completely H.264

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Can only hope other networks follow suit and ditch MPEG2 completely…

It’s well beyond time.

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Still MPEG 2 on the Sunshine Coast.

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Good. Time to ditch MPEG2 for good.

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Seven Darling Downs (branded as Seven Toowoomba) may be a test first before Seven rolls out across the whole network. And they may possibly be making space to switch 7flix to HD?

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Agree, the days of multiple signal splits for regional advertisers are coming to an end.
Seven has the ability to run separate localised commercials/programming for Dubbo. But have never done a playout split to Dubbo since the Prime days before the mid 1990s. There still exists capacity to run a separate SFN in the Dubbo region that does not clash with Orange to this day.

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