We need to sing more Pfizer and we also Moderna. This is a ridiculous position we are in because of this inept government.
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At tonightās media conference:
The ATAGI recommendations are the following:
At the current time, the use of the Pfizer vaccine is preferred over the AstraZeneca vaccine in adults aged less than 50 years who have not already received a first dose of AstraZeneca vaccine.
The second recommendation is that immunisation providers should only give a first dose of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine to adults under 50 years of age where benefit clearly outweighs the risk for that individualās circumstances.
The third recommendation is people that have had their first dose of the COVID-19 AstraZeneca without any serious adverse events can safely be given their second dose.
The final recommendation is that the Department of Health further develop and refine resources for informed consent - which clearly convey the benefits and the risks of the AstraZeneca vaccine for both immunisation providers and consumers of all ages.
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This seems like a bit of an overreaction. The number of blood clot cases was still so tiny. If AstraZeneca was my only option I would still want it. Well worth the risk.
Pfizer was my preferred choice from the beginning but I always said I would get whatever was first offered - which for me ended up being Moderna. So far so good.
Hopefully they get more Pfizer over there quickly.
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I would prefer the US preferences of Pfizer or Moderna and am moving to the UK shortly so will hope to get it before then otherwise Iāll be forced to travel without it and hope to not get sick in transit.
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Where did read this?
From what I heard last week most have had their first shot. There are only a few who havenāt due to medical reasons and they were being moved into other fields.
where benefit clearly outweighs the risk for that individualās circumstances, ?? I am sorry I am disabled, can someone explain what this means??? so i can get either ??? or Pzfizer?
To my knowledge, if you are aged under 50, the recommendation is now that you get Pfizer instead of AstraZeneca.
However if youāve already received your first shot of AstraZeneca, you should still get your second shot of it.
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but what does it mean>>> where benefit clearly outweighs the risk for that individualās circumstances<<<< what does that mean?
In simple terms, the chance of blood clots from the AstraZenca vaccine are extremely unlikely. If I recall correctly, Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly mentioned in tonightās press conference that only like 4 to 6 people out of a million will contract a blood clot from the jab.
So there is more chance that you will benefit from getting the vaccine than there is of you getting blood clots.
However itās worth noting too, that Paul Kelly mentioned that if you get a blood clot from the vaccine, then the death rate is 25% (1 in 4 chance of dying from it).
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but if Pfizer is recommend over astrazenca then what ?
Itās Scientific modeling from University College London.
The U.K. strategy backed by science is working. Deaths and cases have fallen off a cliff. Death rates are currently below 5 year averages for all deaths. 1 jab offers 85% or so protection the second jab seals the deal. The real world evidence seems to support the idea that the faster people get at least 1 jab the better
I get mine tomrorow. Iām under 40. Was one phone call today and a few questions. That was it Iām booked
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A medical chief / scientist on ITV News at 10 last night said blood clots developing is the same chance as being murdered roughly
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Murdered by a knife in London? Slighlty different chances then.
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Lol Good point 
Dumb question, probably repeated, but Iāll ask itā¦
Why did we go with AZ over Pfizer in the first place?
Does tonightās announcement this mean people who are under 50 and in phase 1B for underlying conditions should wait to get the Pfizer jab?
Some sort of loyalty towards Britain and Cambridge University researchers?
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Iād say as part of the deal for CSL to manufacture it here.
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We will see it is just my opinion. You say it is backed by science but there are differing scientific opinions. And science has never had to deal with what the UK is going through. I am just unsure of the way they went about it. But time will tell. Fingers crossed.
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The thing I donāt understand is now SAGE (the scientific group thy advises the govt) is saying we have to be prepared for another wave (āsurgeā) of cases and deaths in July / august based on whatās happening in Europe - it will hit us
The government previously said as long as vaccine roll out stayed strong, variants didnāt disable the effectiveness of vaccines and hospitals and the NHS were not overwhelmed, that they were comfortable with the R rate or case rate rising as we open up. Which will happen as society opens up here starting next week.
100% of people in the vulnerable groups have now been vaccinated, considering how strong and effective the vaccines are - I canāt see how it would result in a surge in deaths as SAGE says
A rise (āsurgeā) in cases is possible. But does it matter if no one is dying and the hospitals are not overwhelmed?
Remember the U.K. has never and still is no pursuing an elimination strategy like OZ. So weāve never tried or have policy to get to zero like Australia. So that is not a goal or an expectation. Hospitals are meant to get sick people to cafe for - thatās why they exist - but as long as they arenāt overwhelmed, the NHS is managing and deaths are not significant- it would seem the government is comfortable with that - and my take is most brits would be
However sage is predicting a surge in deaths - Iām not saying itās impossible. Covid always surprises us. But I canāt see how. 100% of people who are over 50 or in vunerable groups have been jabbed or offered the jab. (But refused) so how can there be a surge in deaths when the vax is 99% effective against death in all trials
The U.K. is currently recording less Covid deaths than we do normally record flu deaths in a normal April.