And in further good news for SA residents travelling to NSW, from tomorrow (Sunday) they wonât have to fill out a declaration on arrival at the state border and wonât have to self-isolate.
They never needed to self isolate.
US media report that Trump has been pressuring FDA boss Stephen Hahn to approve the vaccine in recent days.
Victoriaâs latest numbers. Looks like DHHS are now keeping track on how many days Victoria hasnât seen a local case in the second tweet.
Todayâs VIC and NSW numbers.
Seems like as soon as the lockdown ended in the UK, cases started rising immediately, other western European countries seem to be better at keeping the virus suppressed after lockdown ends.
all my friends in the UK say no one took the lockdown seriously, the pubs were closed but the streets were full and the in-home gathering rules were ignored. They really are just as bad as america, very disappointing.
Yeah I had friends who said the same thing in London. I actually had a friend who came back from Spain and had to do 2 weeks of quarantine at home. I got so mad when she said she had still be walking the streets. But I do understand if the government doesnât care the people wonât either.
But give it 6 months and Europe will be out of all this with the herd immunity approach. Here in Australia we wonât be going back to any normality for quite some time.
Europe wonât achieve herd immunity for a long time. It requires 60-70%+ of the population to have been infected. In the UK they have what 1.6 million-ish cases against a population of 68 million - still a long way to go.
I have a few close friends I went to school with that now live in the UK and their stories on instagram and attitude in back and forth texts just make me a little mad - they really donât care.
A close friend/work colleague who is British but lives here in Melbourne said his Mum and Dad both got COVID in the UK and his Mum still can not smell or taste anything and sheâs 5+ months past when she was diagnosed.
Yeah well Spainâs Health Minister seems to disagree with that statement. They are expecting more than two thirds of the population will be vaccinated by then which will effectively achieve herd immunity.
Good luck to them. Thatâs assuming the adequate supply of the vaccine and adequate takeup by the population.
I donât know Spanairds that well but if their population is anything like the careless, conspirary driven nutjobs that seem to be prevelant across much of the English speaking nations then theyâll still be in trouble.
Plus, you mention that here in Australia we wonât be going back to any normailty for some time - Iâd disagree and state we have something resembling normalicy now!
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It is probably why they are saying they need 2 thirds of the population to take the vaccine to achieve it. It is quite a smart tactic really it gives people that motivation to get it. I have a few friends from Spain and there seems to be a bit of a positive attitude about getting a vaccine. But I think you are going to get the conspiracy theories everywhere.
Depends on what you call normal I guess. I donât think I would suggest we will be going back to ânormalâ because we still wonât be seeing international travel. We will still have people who work in the tourism industry out of jobs. We will probably still even be requiring people to quarantine when returning from overseas. So I donât think that is ânormalâ as you suggest and I donât think that will change until the end of 2021 at the earliest. Experts here are suggesting the vaccine wonât be given to the majority of Australianâs until the end of 2021.
Realistically though, surely most countries would love to be in the position that Australia is currently in?
OK, so there isnât going to be any international travel for a while and weâll probably also have to wait some time for the TGA to approve any COVID-19 vaccines, but all things considered most Australians will probably enjoy a relatively normal Christmas 2020 compared to what much of the rest of the world (particularly the Northern Hemisphere) will be enduring.
Even when international travel does eventually return, I donât think Australians will suddenly be able to go everywhere their passport allows them to. Youâd have to imagine that weâll be able to visit lower risk destinations such as New Zealand and the Pacific Islands well before trips to Europe or North America are back on the cards.
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I donât know if that is necessarily true. Each country has had their own strategy. Ideally it would be great if all countries have had 0 cases. But there has been a lot of sacrifices Australia has had to make to get to 0 cases. I donât know if other countries could or would want to afford those sacrifices. I think most countries would love to be in the position Australia is in without having to shut down their tourism sector. A place like Spain would not have survived having their borders completely shut to international tourists. Same with Greece.
I donât think the issue will be going anywhere. I think the issue will be returning back to Australia. But I simply donât think you will be allowed back into Australia without the vaccine. Or you will have to do 2 weeks quarantine upon return if you havenât had a vaccine and traveled to a âhotspotâ - which is nearly everywhere but New Zealand, Taiwan and the Pacific Islands
Yeah pretty much can confirm that myself the friends I have said they are just going to ignore any directives in future about lock down . I said to them well itâs your funeral and donât come around here no more . Iâve been following all the instructions only left leave my home for essentials and dr appointments and exercising around the block (which I have no problems with as itâs just around the building and some bushes)and a nice small park)
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Meanwhile the UK Government has placed London and parts of Essex and Hertfordshire into tier 3 lockdown effective from tomorrow (December 16), after a spike in positive cases across the capital.
Todayâs VIC and NSW figures
The final report into Victoriaâs Hotel Quarantine Inquiry by Former Judge, Jennifer Coate will be handed to the Victorian Governor on Monday.
Iâm guessing that there must be a lot of fatigue setting in. We are a good 10 months now into this so itâs going to get harder and harder to keep people âdoing the right thingâ the longer it goes on. It must feel like a âhere we go againâ type thing. Especially now that the national lockdown is over but people are facing ongoing tiered restrictions for the foreseeable future.
In Melbourne the lockdowns were closer together so I think more people took it seriously but also in general Australianâs overall do follow things pretty well. Youâll never get 100% compliance but it seems most Aussies did for the most part (even if it was to avoid fines and fear of a big police presence on the streets). Just compare our mask compliance in Melbourne compared to what you are seeing in USA and UK at the moment. I very very rarely saw anyone without a mask anywhere after they were mandated. Whereas you have a big chunk of the American population pretty anti-masks and Iâve seen a lot of images of busy shopping spots in the UK where a lot of people donât have masks on.
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Totally. An see that happening, and I am over it too, but at the end of the day if it helps to stop the spread and keeping me from getting it Iâm happy to stay home and only go out for essentials and do the exercises I need in the back yard. I have actually found it refreshing staying away from the city centre and anywhere there is mad cows of people who re blantly disregarding the directive.
In the mean time I have been playing plague Iâve created a media spy virus. Wiped out America first. 