There are significantly more people going through hotel quarantine’s than there are active Coronavirus cases in Victoria and their health is important too. Whether it’s a hotel with an isolated balcony or giving them an allocated time to go to the hotel rooftop for some fresh air / vitamin D it is within their rights. This should be managed properly and very carefully though. There is no word so far that this has been any reason for the spike… seems to be related to staff.
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why not? many people working from home that are low risk of spreading the disease do almost that passively, and have done it for months on end. not an unreasonable request to force it on the the highest risk people imo.
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The difference is, people working from home can go to their backyards to get fresh air during breaks, but travellers staying in house quarantine have to endure air conditioning 24/7.
Health Minister Brad Hazzard today revealed anyone from an affected Victorian postcode found in NSW could be jailed for six months or fined $11,000.
The ABC understands he will sign a public health order implementing the changes later today.
The new rules will also apply to people in NSW who visit the affected Melbourne suburbs.
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This report highlights people and businesses on one side of a street to be in lockdown while everything is fine on the other side of the road.
Because its a human right.
I feel this will have a huge impact on players and officials from Victorian-based AFL and Super Netball clubs, as some of them reside in the affected suburbs in Melbourne. Will the NSW Government grant exemptions to them when the teams fly into NSW to play?
73 new cases in Victoria overnight.
• 42 are being investigated
• 9 are from known clusters
• 19 found from routine testing
• 3 from hotel quarantine
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Not the first time and not the last time. It’s just 14 days, not a lifetime.
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Exactly. This was the one thing I made sure I did each day during the lockdowns. Going for a walk or exercise each day was my one sense of sanity. I live in an apartment with just a balcony and no backyard (like the Quarantine hotels I guess) and if I wasn’t going for that walk I probably would have gone a little crazy!
Today’s numbers high again. Dan seemed to think there is some “stability” in these numbers… whatever that means. But the trend is that they are still significantly concentrated in the lockdown areas.
That may be so but public health and safety must come first.
Instead of rooting, why not just masturbate?, it’s much more safer & healthier! 
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That they’ve been in the 60-70 range for the last 3 days in a row, which I agree is a good thing in that it’s not growing exponentially… Hopefully it will plateau and go down from here.
Has there been any evidence anywhere that any causes are from this? Not that I’ve seen. We’ve been told security guards are the ones that breached protocols, whatever that means. Like I said the health (both physical and mental) of those in quarantine needs to be managed too. Quarantine is a preventative measure, not punishment.
I am sure there is ways they can do both without prioritising one over the other. Other states have done it not sure why Victoria can’t.
Important, yes. but a priority, no.
there is no human right to fresh air.
and where did the staff get it from? Dan Andrews made it pretty clear that their genomic testing data traces victoria’s outbreak to hotel quarantine leak at the stanford plaza.
There is a greater good. if the only risk is having some people go a little crazy then it is worth the risk.
“endure air conditioning 24/7” is an extreme first world problem. they can suck it up. There are much bigger issues at stake.
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When one is locked up their are laws and regulations that suggest this is a human right.
There is a right:
not to be subjected to torture, or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment
and
to the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health
Fresh air at some point during the day is part of the right even for prisoners.
How hard is it to prioritise both?
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Too hard it seems since their breaches led to a coronavirus spread.
Clearly it isn’t though when that hasn’t been the case in any other state. A friend got back into NSW about a month ago and was allowed fresh air (I think she said they were allowed on the rooftop or something) and they haven’t had the spread Victoria has.
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Regardless of the way it’s spun, something clearly went very wrong with hotel quarantine in VIC compared to all other states. At least this has been acknowledged quite swiftly with the formal investigation into the process and immediate change of management of hotel quarantine in VIC in the coming weeks.
It’s been very clear in NSW, QLD and WA when new cases have popped up since May / June that they’re almost always in hotel quarantine, the cases eventually drop off and there has been no spread as a result.
Is anyone else getting concerned that the authorities in VIC may run out of resources in relation to contact tracing? Wasn’t COVIDsafe meant to help with this?
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