Between Two Worlds

Agreed, but I don’t think the promo got the intrigue for the viewer to check it out in the first place really.
It was like a slideshow of images and didn’t really give the viewer much.

I feel a lot of people would have streamed Ep2 on 7Plus as it was up straight strafe the ep which is what I did. That could have also been a factor into last nights disastrous ratings.

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The VPM ratings for the week show the drama missed the top shows on 7 and the top 10 for the week.

https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/week-31-2020/14926/2?u=tv.cynic

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Interesting !

Last night’s ep, as I’d seem some here and critics say, was better.

If the show is looking for a new timeslot, what about Tuesdays 7:30pm-8:30pm (instead of AGT)? It should hopefully pull higher numbers than an 8:30pm slot, but some of the content in last night’s episode for example, isn’t suited to a 7:30pm slot.

If it runs Tues 7:30pm-8:30pm that would also help Seven’s 2000 Olympic Special this Tuesday, bringing it forward from 9:15pm to the earlier start of 8:30pm.

I think you have summed it up well. Visually the show loos great, but as you have put it the story line and script is very average.

Great looking cast though.

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I haven’t watched it yet. But I will. Just will wait for all episodes to be available. I don’t tend to listen to too many peoples opinions on the drama as I think some people do struggle with Australian drama in general whereas I love it.

But with that said is this the same drama that was floating around a few years ago? Didn’t other networks pass on it?

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I’m a massive Aussie drama person - have been for the last 15-20 years. But even I am struggling.

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The problem for dramas is that all three commercial networks have treated drama as an afterthought in Australia, putting all their eggs in one basket with reality shows. The problem is that these bloated reality shows at 7.30pm running 70min, 90min, 120min or more just make it impossible for drama shows starting on time or in a regular slot.

Impossible to switch over to another channel these days and catch the start of a show on another channel. Is there anywhere else in the world so loose with shows running over and every episode having a varied length? They have basically killed free to air television after 8.30pm in this country.

I don’t think Between Two Worlds running at 7.30pm is an option either. M rated shows might be allowed at 7.30pm but I think viewers would find it confronting to have scenes like a man watching his girlfriend have a threesome with two other men at 7.30pm which is still considered a timeslot for family viewing.

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I will let people know what I think after I watch a few episodes. I just find it hard to consume dramas in a weekly format.

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Sounds like the premise for Married at First Sight yet that rates through the roof at 7.30 :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Another thing to ponder is whether Aussies will tune in to watch a show about the filthy rich. I remember a study back in the late 80s about which soaps or drama series work best in each country.

The Americans are obsessed with money and getting rich so they loved shows about the rich, which is why Dynasty, Dallas, Falcon Crest and all the other variants were massive hits. Even the daytime soapies like The Bold and the Beautiful or The Young and the Restless are about rich families.

The Brits like to feel better about themselves by watching shows about people who are more miserable than themselves, so they love shows about the working class and poor like Eastenders and Coronation Street.

Meanwhile, most Aussies prefer to watch shows about middle class and aspirational people like themselves so they prefer shows like Neighbours, Home & Away, The Sullivans and Packed to the Rafters. At the time of the study, they were trying to work out why series like Taurus Rising and Return to Eden about mega rich Australian families failed. Perhaps this is why Between Two Worlds also struggles and even A Place To Call Home struggled to find a wide audience.

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I’m sorry but that wasn’t the reason why a place to call home struggled. it was because seven had found it skewing too old for their liking and this a common fact. Hence why it was enjoyed by a lot more on Foxtel and why it lasted as long as it did. and it seems to me that since apach got brought out to Foxtel and seven is punishing beven with between two worlds

Skewing old was the reason that Seven stopped making it after the second season. If it had been a huge success in season 2 or even matched season 1 then it would have survived, but season 2 was way down on its debut. The competition in the timeslot didn’t help either.

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It probably could have greatly benefited from a decent writers room. The script makes the Seachange reboot look like a John Edwards production :rofl:

I am a huge believer in Australian Drama, and we have had some really great quality on much lower budget. Maybe as I hit my late 30’s I am skewing older, but Stateless, Total Control & even Five Bedrooms have recently demonstrated how well things can be done.

I may be wrong, but I assume Back To The Rafters will be Lee’s final program, though he will likely continue to consult for Seven in some capacity.

Such a shame it won’t be airing on Seven.

what I have been told is that it did not matter if it was a success or not a place to call home was skewing to old and it had no attentions to go past season 2. and the reason why season 2 fell on debut was that the screwing to old and was skewing past the 54 age bracket .so in fact it fell on debut to the under 54 market but had better ratings for the 54 + age group

Well, there certainly are some interesting theories here and in today’s ratings area. Many have some credibility (perhaps all) and they might account for some aspects of the poor performance.

However, I found it telling last week that BTW got 419,000 following Farmers premiere with 908,000. Then the next night a US drama, also on Seven and also following Farmers got 453,000, and that night the lead in had dropped to 754,000 and there was arguably more competition that night. In the 25-54 demo the contrast was even more stark with the US drama posing 60% more viewers.

I don’t think the main problem here is lead ins, timeslots, starting on time or promos or the socio-economic level of the characters. Surely it has to be the show itself namely the quality of the writing, characterisation and perhaps acting.

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Not Bevan Lee’s finest hour then?

Isn’t he also the long-time script executive at Seven:

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A major difference there is BTW was against two other dramas in its time slot (Vera and FBI) as opposed to 9-1-1 which wasn’t directly against other dramas at the same time (it was against Light Entertainment or News instead).