By definition, repeaters must have the same call sign. The examples you gave are separate licences, the fact that they broadcast the same program is irrelevant. It’s misleading to compare ABC licences to commercial licences. The National (ABC and SBS) licences don’t necessarily cover the same areas as the commercials and have different rules around what they broadcast.
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ABC wanted to switch 828 3GI to a Radio National outlet and keep local radio entirely on FM. I think that happened for a while.
But as Rob points out, the main FM transmitter at Mt Tassie was burned to the ground on Black Saturday. They had to rebuild the whole ABC facility up there.
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Yes, that is true. But it is a very strange edge case, as they are all technically separate licences (as has been pointed out) but have been grouped together by the ABC. Plus, I was thinking more just about commercial, but yes it has happened.
Yes and yes.
For sure - was a lifeline in the last fires I should imagine.
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so, did the freq change happen for RN 107.7 during this outage?
The outage didn’t happen yet. I should’ve mentioned the date earlier, in which it is set to happen on Tuesday 1st December & Wednesday 2nd December.
Just looking at the ABC Reception page set to Crookwell, look what has greeted me:
Yes, this confirms that the upcoming outage will indeed involve a frequency change for RN! 
That means the FM conversion for 2GN shouldn’t be too far away afterwards.
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Be interesting to know how many actual people would be affected in a small town like Crookwell listening to Radio National. Would it be 10 people? Or would I be surprised? I am sure 576 AM would be fine there as well.
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Don’t forget the 846 AM signal from Canberra would cover Crookwell pretty well too.
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its a lot like having SBS radio in places like Thargominda QLD…how many listeners? I’d say a binary number being either 0 or 1 
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If the NSW experience is anything to go by, it’s probably never been switched on, or the licence has been handed back by now. Can’t see many residents really wanting the service to remain on air - towns like Thargomindah probably have a high indigenous population and would be better off having CAAMA radio (8ACR) there.
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Also add Cobar to the list too. I believe they have SBS radio there on 105.3 FM.
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And 106.9 as well.
I was there in June last year, 105.3 had SBS Chill and 106.9 was SBS Pop Desi.
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I was only using Thargominda as an example. I meant SBS outlets in all rural areas - a complete waste of money & power. Outlets like 106.5 Cooma rarely actually re-transmit SBS radio but something else…
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Agree, those that don’t have a high indigenous population wouldn’t really need CAAMA Radio.
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I believe we received the SBS outlet in Thallon one year via Es (at least that was what was listed). Can’t remember the frequency. But yes, a lot either have never got to air, were on air for a brief period then shut down (Lithgow, Oberon), or are relaying 10 BOLD or the VAST loop depending on which set top box they’re using.
Tuesday is set to be a god awful hot day so I don’t think I’ll head up to Crookwell before my show. Will have to wait till next weekend.
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As mentioned on the following thread.
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I listened for a few hours over the last couple of nights & have not heard this promo. They must have yanked it off the air?
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Perhaps saving money has delayed it?
Surely the apparent centralisation of music scheduling and other staff cutbacks would accommodate this?
The regional sector’s supposed reduced profitability due to the pandemic is a good excuse to delay doing anything. Meanwhile, competing choices become more entrenched.
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Less than it being commercial for cap ex and op ex. It’s national, so it’s everywhere.
AM signals from metros are fine in Crookwell if away from RFI.
Confirmation that RN Crookwell is now on 104.5. Nothing on 107.7. I doubt 2GN will test before Christmas but I’ll keep an ear out.
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According to ACMA’s Register of Radiocommunications Licences, the new 2GN FM licence is still being shown as ‘Not Granted’ at this point, so yes, it’s not likely that 2GN would have a test transmission until at least early in the new year.
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