Fourth quarter only, and a highlights package?
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Totally agree.
The last two days itâs been very quiet from all camps.
Not sure why the AFL think this is good practice to go back and forth with Seven and Fox to change their bids etc.
Surly Ten are asking that question to the AFL? I know I would be asking if I were in that position.
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Surely Seven wouldnât considering banking on Fox for the long term future? Sooner or later they need to cut them loose and go solo and the only way they could afford it is if they have a SVOD to themselves.
Surely Seven have learnt the lesson that Fox shouldnât be trusted in any way with sports deal after the debacle that is the cricket rights deal?
This comment makes no sense. Youâre speaking as if Fox manipulated Seven into signing a deal and that Fox are an unstable organisation. The deal is only a debacle because Seven have turned it into one. They knew what they were signing up for. Fox have produced high-quality cricket coverage - they havenât done anything wrong.
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Fox and Cricket Australia did because they wanted exclusivity behind a paywall which is illegal but they managed to find a loophole and coerced Seven into doing it. Not saying Seven is without fault for doing it (and for whining about it afterwards) but there was virtually no option for exclusivity after Fox and CA screwed everything over so itâs their fault too.
News Corp might have more money but the AFL needs to consider what is it that they want: Reach, longevity or money. People might want Fox to have the rights because apparently they spend money and do a âgood jobâ at it but whatâs to say other networks wonât if given an opportunity?
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Serious question here letâs just say AFL went to a streamer or to Foxtel permanently. What of those things do people think would be affected?
I actually think the AFL has enough pull that people would pay for it.
Disagree. Times are tough right now and a lot of people may not be able to shell out $25p/m (Kayo).
Also the older generation who arenât tech savvy and donât have smart TVs etc would be left in the dark.
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Being of the âolder generationâ you speak of I am pretty tech savvy and my TV is very smart (one of the latest LG models)! 
Seriously this older generation âstuffâ is a major generalisation. Also I will go without whatever to watch my Demons play each week. I have Kayo on a special deal from Telstra for $15. It sometimes pays to be from the older generation and âplayâ the cranky old pensioner and get special deals. 
Agree 100%. Although I do agree times are tough for many people.
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My grandparents are in their 80s and donât even have internet, nor a smart phone. A lot of older relatives I know who are in their late 60s and 70s arenât tech savvy and donât use streaming services.
But in the end itâs up to what the AFL finds important for profitability given that these people are definitely falling into a smaller niche now.
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That was a factor I was thinking of as well, speaking from personal appearance. My Nanna in her 90s loved watching the footy for years, from either her house or at the aged care facility she moved into in her later life.
Before she passed away, I used to visit her often during weekends, and the TV there in a seating room always had the footy on.
Yes, aged care facilities can opt for Foxtel or other services to remedy that, but for others it isnât so accessible to do so.
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Fair enough but I know lots of late 60âs and 70âs who are.
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Donât get me wrong, I know a few who are savvy too and it has surprised me. One relative is in his late 80s and uses Netflix by himself!
I think itâs pretty clear what the hold up in the deal is.
The same reason why Foxtel agreed late to the 2023-24 extension.
SA/WA exclusivity. Foxtel happy to pay the lions share in the increase the AFL are after on the proviso there is an agreeable amount of Crows/Power Eagles/Dockers exclusive to them.
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Iâm a magnet for old timers who struggle with technology and ask me to text for them or get a balance with their mobile phones. I know someone who is a couple of years younger than me and technology just isnât part of his life. He wonât even have an email address because he doesnât use internet and wouldnât check for email. Iâve had to sit with him and do his work accreditation courses with him because he canât even access the web pages or control a mouse. There are people out there that just refuse to use it. I have no idea how they function.
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Not unless it emerges/becomes clear that Seven and Fox would be unable to work together in any way, shape or form.
The notion some here have that broadcast rights negotiations involving multiple parties are meant to be a smooth process whereby there are no disagreements and pushback whatsoever is fanciful. Is that the case sometimes? Of course it is. However, parties and the sporting body/competition going back-and-forth about elements of the rights deal is typically how the process operates.
Firstly, the lack of leaks suggests some progress is probably being made. If that wasnât the case, we would have had another leak from either broadcaster pushing their agenda.
In regards to your second point, youâre literally describing how rights negotiations work.
Youâre speaking as if Sevenâs previous leadership didnât knowingly make a conscious decision to enter into that rights deal fully knowing a) What rights they would and wouldnât be getting and b) What rights Foxtel would be getting & how that would happen.
Seven werenât forced to sign that deal - they could have easily rejected it if they were opposed to the way CA and Foxtel âbendedâ the anti-siphoning rules in order for the latter to have exclusive rights to international limited over matches played in Australia.
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Fair enough. It was a genuine question. I know some just wouldnât be able to afford it. I just know myself no matter how tough times were I would find a way to pay for the sport I get so much enjoyment from
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Personally I have tried kayo and donât see the value. if the price were closer to what almost all the other streamers charge I might be more interested.
In case anyone wants to tune in:
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Statement from Paramount ANZ
Paramount Australia and New Zealand (ANZ) supports the statement on AFL media rights made by the Minister for Communications, The Hon Michelle Rowland MP.
Sport is an integral part of Australian culture and society, and Paramount ANZ agrees that all Australians should be able to watch major sporting events, particularly those of national and cultural significance live on free-to-air television.
These should be easily accessible, live, and free. Not only does this foster a shared national identity but it contributes to the growth of community engagement and participation in sport.
Paramount ANZ looks forward to participating in the review of the anti-siphoning laws which will commence in the coming weeks and is grateful to have the opportunity to share its views on major sporting events remaining live and free to all Australians.
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Iâd rather watch my team on delay for free than pay. Potentially, a 90-120 minute delay I could live with.
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