YouTube

I have a VPN from now on to browse the internet for an extra layer of privacy. A VPN is cheap and is the best way to browse the internet

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This won’t stop the kids from having YouTube accounts. They’ll find a way around it.

So if you’re an adult that watches some videos that under 18’s also watch, YouTube AI will flag your account as a possible under 18 user and you need to upload your ID to prove otherwise?

What a mess.

They can visit YouTube Kids which will be exempt from the ban as per The Guardian article.

No, they’ll just lie and say they’re over 16. Plus YouTube Kids has a history of allowing some dodgy videos through.

Kids arent stupid. It takes just one smart cookie to find a work around and pass that knowledge around.

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The thing with YouTube Kids is that now we’re putting 3 year olds and 15 year olds on the same platform. There’s a reason that ABC3 exists seperate to ABC Kids…

On a side tangent this legislation means 15 year olds aren’t allowed to open a social media account but are allowed to play GTA4

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what could possibly go wrong?? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

So how do you suggest they do it?

I’d suggest parents start paying more attention to what their kids do online. Don’t have computers and consoles in bedrooms, take phones off them at bedtime, only give them crappy burner phones if they feel the kids need a mobile. Actually be a parent. You can say no.

The dodgy videos that can appear on YouTube Kids, that is a YouTube problem and I think they do it to some extent. But that’s a lot like whack-a-mole - take one down, 3 pop up.

And before people say “teachers should do more” and make comments like this…

We already do have cyber safety and digital citizenship embedded in multiple subjects. And we have to teach it. We have procedures in place should cyber bullying take place and its associated with the school - this is part of our mandatory reporting role. We have a mobile phone ban in schools, although that is half arsed because it’s not a blanket rule, each school has its own policy.

Parents undermine us by giving into their kids by allowing them to access stuff they shouldn’t be looking at. We’ve got enough on our plate without having to be surrogate parents. That’s your job. Do the crime, do the time.

Teachers are already complaining about this rule, but I say to them you download the clip first and reupload the MP4 into your LMS. If you’re not already doing this, you need your head read.

This ban will not work. And I’m worried they’ll punish the rest of us like they do in the UK with age verification. Banning stuff for the sake of kids wellbeing is all well and good but it’s not going to be feasible. The internet will see this as a pothole and work their way around it.

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I heard Wippa on Nova talk to Annika Wells on Nova this morning.

Kids under 16 will not be prevented from watching YouTube videos. They will only be prevented from opening their own accounts and channels on YouTube until they are 16.

Then what’s the point? If kids want to open an account on any social media platform, they will. If they want to access content on these platforms, they will. They’ll fins ways around it or get their parents to do it.

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Kids will find ways to smoke, drink booze etc when they’re not legally allowed to as well. Doesn’t mean we should make that a free for all.

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I bet $20 that Albo and Wells would be absolutely shocked at what YouTube was like back in the early 2010s and the things you could get away with back then. If I had a kid and I caught my child watching these types of videos, there would be a lot of explaining to do and discussing on the content plus their device would be locked up for two weeks although the only winning move in this is not to give the device to the kid in the first place.

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As a 16-year old who started posting and watching content years ago, I think YouTube could be useful for educational purposes. But for teens, could they go to Odysee when they are 16? Yes they could. Paging fellow YouTuber @MossPickle.

Odysee currently requires users to be 13 years of age or older in order to open up an account.

Parents are not gonna do what you suggest they think electronics is a great baby sitter.

As much as I like your idea parents don’t want to do anything that inconvenience them..

Some fine points made by @Leo_Puglisi6 on 701 this afternoon.

The hamful content isnt being removed from the platform. Shouldn’t that be the focus?

Also, a 15 year old can see M15 and MA15 contrnt yet can’t use social media. I don’t know whats worse.

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It’s a mess and even worse in the UK where they’ve just given 16 year olds the right to vote but blocked anyone under 18 from accessing “adult content” on platforms like YouTube, Reddit, etc, and in the UK “adult content” includes footage of political protests and discussing news about Gaza etc.

Then they’re shitty parents. End of.

If you’re going to treat teenagers like little children, at least make it consistent. Make M and MA 16+ and bring it inline.

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