An appointment the country can get behind 
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I think you all need to be examined by Dr Phil. 
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/24/trump-supporters-react-cabinet-picks
TLDR: Morons who think Trump is the pot of honey on the other side of rainbow when itâs mostly faeces painted in gold glitter.
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Donald Trump said on Monday he would sign an executive order imposing a 25% tariff on all products coming in to the United States from Mexico and Canada.
âOn January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,â Trump said in a post on Truth Social.
Trump said the tariffs would remain in place until the two countries clamp down on drugs, particularly fentanyl, and migrants crossing the border illegally.
In a follow-up post, Trump announced that the US âwill be charging China an additional 10% Tariff, above any additional Tariffs, on all of their many products coming into the United States of Americaâ.
Trump and his supporters have already proven they donât know how tariffs work, and now he wants to impose tariffs on the USâ only neighbours and top two trading partners?
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Heâs all about getting along and liking Xi yet imposes tariffs on China. Says it all about this two-faced f-wit.
But no, his lunatic supporters will gush over this because theyâre supposed âtiredâ of âeliteâ bureaucracy telling them whatâs good for them even though Trump and his cronies are also part of that âeliteâ force that they seem to despise.
I think Trump does know how they work. And everyone was informed and explained how they would work. This is what the people voted for. So they have to be prepared for the consequences.
Whether he knows or not, the story he sold was âtariffs will make other countries payâ. His misinformed voters ate it up, including business owners and workers that rely on imports.
Reality didnât start to hit until companies started panic buying in bulk before the tariffs come in⌠I donât think it actually has hit for most. Itâs Americaâs version of the Brexit Bus.
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Misinformed is a bit generous to describe them. Iâd probably describe them as âbrainwashedâ, or in RFK Jrâs case, braindead. But knowing what MAGA is like theyâll probably blame it on the Democrats anyway.
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Heâs not going to listen to them. His head is so far up his you know what that he can see through his nose.
But most voters, including his supporters, know he makes a lot of stuff up. So they should have done their own research. They have to lie in their bed.
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If you want to learn more about how Kamala lost, listen to the new Pod Save America episode with the members of Kamalaâs team. Excuses and no acceptance of things they got wrong. Feels like people are cosplaying The West Wing which was last relevant to the US political disposition (if ever) about 20 years ago.
Serious question: Is it possible to pursue a progressive socioeconomic agenda without alienating the working class? Experiments with that in recent elections in Australia and in the UK seems to suggest that both sides of the argument are basically saying itâs one or the other. If youâre for the working class, you have to give up on things like climate action, equality etc, and vice versa. Itâs mind boggling how that could be such a thing.
I have to agree that given the gravity of Trumpâs re-election, the fact that Harris and her team are doing a self-congratulatory run is pretty, you know, weird. They should be picking each other apart for what went wrong so it wonât happen again in 2028. I canât say why given Iâm not part of the team, but I suppose part of her failure is the old slogan âItâs the economy, stupidâ and she didnât capitalise on that as much as she could.
Cynically I feel that even if Harris didnât make those simple but blatantly obvious mistakes (one trick pony with abortion, celebrity endorsements overload, no explicit outline of her policies equally, endless attacking Trump instead of his policies as much as it was justified etc) the American people were going to stupidly vote for Trump anyway. It seems nothing wouldâve changed their minds and Trump was going to romp it in anyway because of Biden being supposedly poor.
Americans have this mentality of all win, no lose about them. They love to hear how good their economy is and how their lives are good when itâs not. Itâs what cost Carter his re-election in 1980 when he was being honest with them about the energy issue. They wanted to hear lies and delusions and Reagan (and now Trump) was delivering it to them in spades.
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It is possible to do both, however, they need to also pay attention to the issues affecting voters like cost of living and the economy - the issues of the people they want to govern needs to be their number 1 priority - however, provided they address the voters main concerns, then they can pursue other agendas.
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I have a lot of friends that voted for Kamala. Theyâre still
Going on about how evil and bad trump is. (I agree, but still
Going on about how bad he is at this point is a waste of energy)
When I turn the discussion to what the dems did wrong and how to learn from it - they loose interest, praise her some more and turn back to shor slinging trump
This is why she lost. Heads in sand
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I think itâs possible to do both too.
BUT in the Australian context, as a traditionally Labor voter I have been incredibly frustrated though with the leftâs inability to balance their policies across economic and social agendas.
I am economically progressive but I almost feel like the left have gone too far on socially progressive policies. Theyâve fought hard on equality over the decades but are now pushing things too far and seem to have abandoned the principal that everyone is equal. Climate action isnât really the problem, but things like first nations agendas have gone too far. When certain social agendas are questioned - even in the wake of a defeat like the Voice or even the US election - they are dismissed out of hand. Thatâs such a frustration. The left seem unwilling to self-reflect or budge even an inch on certain things. Consequently itâs the right that seem more flexible and inclusive - which of course is mostly an illusion, but itâs still the perception. In short, the left come across as sanctimonious and stubborn.
Back to the US context, I think the Democrats may have lost the poorer working class who seem eager to believe what the Magaâs are peddling. However they need to re-focus on the middle-class. The middle class are very much still in play, but they need to appeal to what matters to the middle class. And a big part of that is a strong economy and opportunity to maintain and better their standard of living, while also supporting the services they value - education and health.
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It probably explains why Labor is trying to lurch to the right (comparatively speaking) so they can get back to the centre of the political spectrum (and Labour in the UK is doing the same), but the issue is that it seems that the move has pleased no one. The right thinks theyâve gone too âwokeâ, whilst the left thinks theyâre in bed with the right. Itâs probably more of a product of the polarised political landscape these days more than anything else but itâs disheartening to see because there is really a place for a truly centrist party (like Labor/Labour) to do things properly for everyone.
In America, the Democrats are far from far left (apart from the likes of AOC etc) but the way the media and Trump likes to portray them as communist look-a-likes quite frankly is inaccurate yet it ropes people in. Perhaps what they need, in addition to good policy, is a better communicator for Presidency in 2028. Luckily for the Democrats theyâve got quite a pool of high profile senators/governors they could pick from which will make a competitive primary, whilst over at the Republicans, post-Trump theyâve got VanceâŚand then who else? Probably a bunch of dinosaurs or far right hacks like MTG.
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The Democrats definitely need a better communicator in 2028, if indeed there is a 2028. And I hate to say it, but they possibly need a man. But whoever it is they need to be a great communicator like Bill Clinton or Obama. And someone whoâs good off the cuff too.
Theyâve got the perfect one (Pete Buttigieg) but unfortunately his sexuality would not suit the so called Christian right not to mention other right wing religious groups yet they voted for a racist rapist! There was nothing wrong with Kamalaâs communication IMO. The Democrats failed to excite their voters and get them to the polls. The economic message was not shared enough, that America is doing pretty much ok. I believe the economy will be much worse after 4 years of this idiot! The old saying about âmaking beds and lying in themâ comes to mind. Both uses of the word âlieâ can be used for trumpers!