Not to mention his extreme religious views that let him rule his decision making.
Ye, I personally am not a fan of his extreme stance on abortion and gay rights.
Those on the left should be careful about what they wish for.
IMHO, if Trump limps on for another year, two year or sees out this term, he probably wonāt get much done. Mainly this will be down to his constant scandals sucking the air out of the GOPās legislative agenda. Also the WH is disorganised and heās not the master negotiator that heās made himself out to be.
Should he resign or be impeached and found guilty, there will be celebration for a day or two, but Pence could be even an even worse result.
Not only is he more stridently (and truly) against what many/most Dems stand for (abortion, gay rights, etc), but heās much more in tune and collegiate with House Republicans. Heāll probably be way more organised too, seeing as heās already got experience as a governor.
The upsides are that he wonāt imperil American security and foreign relations with the reckless abandon that Trump has.
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Pence just regurgitates whatever heās told to say ā¦ and a lot of the time the truth is not what he said.
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So from what I hear from reports this weekā¦the FBI director is in position at the discretion of the President. The President, aware that the director is wasting resources investigating a conspiracy theory, dismisses him. If I was Trump and knew there was no basis for these theories, Iād instate someone else in the position too? What are we meant to find so outrageous?
I notice the media and Democrats have piped down since the Special Counsel was appointedā¦and you know why, because itās crunch time now. New York Times and Washington Post whispers arenāt going to cut it anymore and this Russia thing is going to be stopped dead in its tracks. Hence Pelosi etc. warning about how the investigation could still be āinfluencedā by Trump admin appointed DOJ officials.
I mean, youāve got to be naive, and frankly, as dumb as a brick, to believe self-serving propoganda like this:
FBI Director James B. Comey prepared extensively for his discussions with President Trump, out of concern that the president was unlikely to respect the legal and ethical boundaries governing their respective roles, according to associates of the now-fired FBI chief.
Iāve never read such bullshit in my life. 
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The fact Comey investigated both Trump and Hillary means thereās probably a good reason for him to be kept in the position. He doesnāt favour either political cause.
Itās outrageous because a) it makes Trump look guilty as sin, and b) because Trump could have fired Comey from day 1 of his Presidency, but instead waited until the Russia scandal began to gather momentum before firing him, which only further makes Trump look like heās just trying to cover his own arse.
Or because the appropriate action has been taken? Now an investigation will find the truth, and Trump canāt interfere like he did when he asked Comey if he could ālet goā of the Flynn investigation.[quote=āFiretorch, post:598, topic:1886ā]
New York Times and Washington Post whispers arenāt going to cut it anymore and this Russia thing is going to be stopped dead in its tracks.
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Just this morning it was announced that James Comey will testify in front of the Senate Committee. I dunno what news sources youāre reading but from what I can see from several newssites I frequently visit, the Russia scandal isnāt going to go away any time soon.
Arguably this is more important. If Trump has shared details of intelligence (and endangered an Israeli operative, as has apparently happened), then allies of the US will be more hesitant to share information on the off-chance Orange McFuckface shares it.
Socially, Pence is aligned with his constituents. At least he wonāt be undermining democratic norms every other day.
Er, not at all. Itās like a football umpire that played for a particular side then going out of his way to favour the opposing side to show how ānot biasedā he is. He was wailing in front of a committee last week about how he could have influenced the election against the Democratsā¦you think thatās appropriate behaviour for an FBI chief?
It doesnāt at all. I donāt even know what heās āguiltyā of. That someone in his campaign talked to the Russian Ambassador to the US? Seriously? Howās that controversial? Leaders running for election often meet other foreign leaders and dignitaries. Macron met with Theresa May in 10 Downing St before the French election. Is Macron going to be investigated forā¦wait for itā¦contact with the British?!!..shock horror. Itās just so juvenile. The whole thing. Seriously.
As to why he didnāt fire him from Day 1ā¦well he obviously thought heād resolve it without a public humiliation for Comey by getting him to drop it. If YOU were Trump and YOU knew the Russian thing was not trueā¦would you let an FBI director, appointed at your discretion, waste resources on it? I wouldnāt.
Haha, well, like I said, why was Pelosi already foreshadowing the outcome of the investigation being tainted? Come on, donāt be gullible.
Oh, I mean that the outcome of the investigation will stop it (well, there might be minor, irrelevant outcomes that will be blown up across the Times and Post) - weāre not going to find that Putin is paying Trump, or that Trump is somehow a Russian agent, lol. As for the Times and Post, I fully expect them to present a million irrelevant articles on each angle of the subject each day, like a trashy tabloid covering every aspect of Pippaās weddingā¦lots of contentā¦lots of anglesā¦no substance (or in this case, evidence).
Yes, it is important for an FBI chief to take into consideration the political consequences of his actions, especially when heās actioning an investigation 11 days before a national election.
Whatās even more egregious was that Trump thanked Comey for his investigation on the day it was announced, and then fired him six months later without even a goodbye kiss. Sounds like heās running scared 
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If YOU were Trump and YOU knew the Russian thing was not trueā¦would you let an FBI director, appointed at your discretion, waste resources on it?
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If I was innocent, sure Iād let them have the time of their lives. They wouldnāt find anything and look all the more stupid for it at the end of it all. Then Iād fire them.
Trumpās either guilty or incapable of picking the right time to fire someone, or both.[quote=āFiretorch, post:604, topic:1886ā]
Come on, donāt be gullible.
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Well I disagree with Pelosi, as I have many times.
But I thought you said the Democrats were being quiet? So how does Pelosi fit into your conspiracy?
And cāmon man, at least combine your comments into one or two posts. 4 is ridiculous.
Seriously?
The investigation is specifically into Russian meddling in the election? Have You Been Paying Attention?
Iāve addressed that.
Yeah but Iām hungover, youāll have to spell it out.
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No one has questioned his ability to sack him (that Iāve seen) and its not like heās acted alone - both the AG and his deputy have recommended Comey be removed. The optics look terrible though and the timing is woeful, both make it look like Trump has either something to hide or he is trying to cover it up. The fact that Trump mentioned in Comeyās āDont Come Mondayā the conversations about Comey allegedly not investigating Trump says a lot as well.
This was allegedly intellegence that wasnt shared with Five Eyes either
Iād also add that Trump was struggling to make appointments anyway - in fact still need to make appointments
What is the āsomethingā that Trump could be hiding? What actually is being investigated regarding Trumpās actions? Does removing James Comey as FBI Director mean all evidence, if there was āsomethingā to be investigated, vanishes? No. Does removing James Comey mean that James Comey now has amnesia and canāt reveal this bombshell information? No. Does removing James Comey mean that all this evidence, supposedly already collated by the FBI, used as the basis for even performing an investigation in the first place, is no longer held by the FBI? No.
So I really donāt see how this shows Trump is ācoveringā something up. This is not a James Bond movie!
As for the NYTimes thinking it has a smoking gun with the quote that Trump said dropping Comey āeases the pressureā over Russiaā¦well of course it does. And not in the sense that James Comey, the Sherlock Holmes or the Poirot of the FBI, was hot on his heels and Trump at the last minute thwarted him - but simply means, as has already been explained by the administration, that Trump has greater freedom in now dealing with Russia on a number of issues.
I mean, the idea that Trump is somehow involved in some secret relationship with Russia, and just COMICALLY dropped the line to Russia, in the bugged Oval Office, that āwow, now Iāve sacked Comey theyāll no longer catch me! Iām under so much less pressureā is just so ridiculous.
Here. Or did you mean something else? What other āRussian meddlingā are you referring to?