triple j

Can the last one out please turn the lights off?

Better hope Ben is better behaved at the ABC than he was at Nova…

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For once, a quick finding instead of the usual year that ACMA take.

Good riddance to the guest host after such vile comments, thankfully very few listening to the show when this was said, still, abhorrent comments that haven’t been let pass.

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Nor should he, a great result to remove such average leadership. And if Leader had anything to do with the hiring of the guest hip hop host, all the more reason to see the last of her.

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understood that a heated meeting with staff in Sydney was held on Monday to outline the changes, with shock and disappointment voiced, particularly over the controversial redundancy of Richard Kingsmill’s role

Interesting, staff don’t like change and are resistant, sacked staff like Hustwaite have a last huff and puff on social media.

Reflects a big attitude and culture problem that has been allowed to propagate unchecked for years.

Good on Ben Latimer for addressing this, acknowledging that the fish has been rotting from the head and hopefully recruiting new talent to the ABC to address this.

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JJJ is boring and stale and has lost its remit. About time it had a shake-up. And stop centralising it all to Sydney, it sounds way too Sydney.

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I wonder if there will be a ‘clean house’ of JJJ and the ABC in general in 2024?

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I work with a few people who listen to Triple J - they’ve pretty well all said that there needs to be some changes at the station, whether it be to broaden the music or to get rid of some of the presenters.

One made a good point - the remit of Triple J needs to change, why are they trying to chase a market that generally doesn’t (and are unlikely to return to) listen to the radio? I suppose the challenge here is that you end up having two stations with significant overlap

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If anything JJ needs moving to FM and JJJ goes to DAB and streaming only.

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Double J is too niche for FM.

It would be like putting ABC Jazz on on FM.

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Correct, it needs to emulate the BBC R1 or R2 more adult music that people have discussed here.

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Putting Double J (in its current form) on FM is an utter waste of spectrum (and I say that as someone who enjoys JJ) - its bad enough that we only have two national music stations terrestrially, but to have a third that is all but slightly tangentially different from an incumbent is an incredibly poor decision.

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You could flip Double J to a more mainstream adult album alternative format (like the old Coast FM). Either that or a slightly more alternative version of BBC Radio 2.

It really comes down to that age old question: what is the ABC giving us for our taxpayer dollar.

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They need to just do a straight copy of BBC R2. But I don’t think the ABC has it in them to pull it off. They would, like you suggest, probably go more alternative with it - too alternative, like Double J. They just can’t help themselves.

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It’s time Triple J evolves and catches up with the times. No one likes change but you only need to look at the ratings to realise it’s time for a change.

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The numbers are not just confined to Sydney, with all capital cities bar Adelaide seeing a sharp decline in the last twelve months in the 18-24 demographic. Sydney and Brisbane are the steepest with their shares halving or more in just twelve months while Perth is down 32%, Melbourne is down 12% and Adelaide is up 22%.

I get that this is an incredibly hard segment of the market to get to listen to the radio, surely continued poor performance in one of their key demographics is reason enough to reconsider whether the current offering is meeting the market.

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Exactly. The BBC did something very similar with Radio 1 back in the mid-90s, including replacing its very long-serving programmer with someone new. Most of the presenters were either sacked or moved to Radio 2. It was controversial but paid off for them in spades. I’m sorry Richard Kingsmill has been let go but an overhaul of JJJ is well overdue.

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Aren’t there rumours that RN and News Radio are going to merge as well? They really need a re-think of their radio services.
Tney really need an overhaul to something like:

Local Radio Network
ABC News/National Speech Radio (specialist programming, news, parliament) -AM
Classic move to AM/DAB & Listen focus
JJJ - independent and Australian emerging artists (youth radio)
New national FM speech/music station in style of R2.

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I think there is room for Double J and triple j both on FM in regional areas at least. But both need an overhaul if it’s going to work.

Even opt outs for local state news, weather and traffic would be nice. Double J currently has no news at all.

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Agree, Double J would add some much needed variety in the regional space.

The flip side to that though would be asking if adding Double J regionally would be adding listeners who aren’t listening to radio regionally, or taking existing listeners from commercial radio.
If it’s the latter, then they will be screaming that their losing audience to the big bad ABC, potentially resulting in more networking, and potentially exacerbating the existing problems for regional radio.

Someone with more knowledge can work that one out.

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