Ten (Tasmanian Digital Television)

[TelevisionAU]

@Radio_TVGuy

Instead of negotiating, couldn’t Seven just acquire the Mount Gambier and Griffith TV licenses from WIN like what Network 10 did for their affiliates in Northern NSW/Gold Coast? Otherwise these stations will indeed go dark and viewers will have fewer choice.

I suspect WIN will prefer to keep the licence and keep the channel off-air rather than sell it to introduce a new competitor (Seven) to what is already a very small market.

[Chris_Woolley]

@Radio_TVGuy

It would have to be. Since TDT is a statewide feed

I could be wrong, but Tasmania is 2 licence areas, TV1 Tasmania and in some parts Remote VAST. However TVT and TNT have had (since aggregation) two feeds, a northern feed and a southern feed on their main channels only. The multi channels area all statewide only.

TDT launched and has always had a single state wide feed.

@Radio_TVGuy

Otherwise the station would no longer be able to accept advertisers from Launceston (all those ads would be transferred over to either SWM or WIN), though I’d expect WIN would just elect to shut it down at this rate if transmissions of the TDT service were to cease in Northern Tasmania and not in Hobart, meaning Hobart residents would also have to stream on the 10 (formerly 10play) app, or sign up for VAST to receive 10 Central or (maybe) 10 Melbourne.

I am not sure why TDT wouldn’t take advertising dollars from anyone from any area? Plenty of “out of area” advertisers advertise on TV stations that are not local to them. Qantas don’t only advertise in Sydney because that’s where HQ is.

I think your thinking that WIN will just turn off TDT in the south is fundamentally flawed. TDT would be run on the smell of an oily rag, they have no real staff, not real expenses outside of affiliate and TX agreements.

I can’t imagine they actually don’t make some money, I think the question is; Is it enough to pay for (what must be end of life) soon required TX upgrades and ROI considerations for a companies like WIN.

I think what will kill off TDT will be a major transmitter failure or upgrade to give consist and reliable coverage. Who would want to pay for that replacement…WIN, I doubt it…7WM/BAI not if its in Hobart…Isn’t this what really killed off Mildura? The coin required for a new TX?

I can see consolidation in equipment coming, as in TDT10 (the main 10 service) being carried by WIN in the south and 7WM/BAI in the north as a multichannel, and Tasmania loosing say a 9GEM and 7TWO to accommodate it…

I suspect the end user (outside the media spy bubble) actually doesn’t care about what TX or licence carries what…as long as they can see it, potentially for free, in their area. I can’t imagine there would be riots in the streets if 9GEM or 7TWO disappeared to accommodate 10…

I mean imagine a world where SBS (due to anti-syphoning laws around sport) carries 10…as a multichannel…and 10 pays them…do we care SBS is the TX name?

However, I have been wrong in the past…and probably will be in the future…but just some thoughts…

[ando9185]

We seem to be talking about WIN calling all the shots here but doesn’t SCA (soon to be 7) actually run the broadcast side for TDT? I believe it was WIN who ran MDT?

WIN has been handling the advertising side for TDT since it started, they did have their own person until they closed that office last year and have had it all done via WIN this year.

[TelevisionAU]

@ando9185

We seem to be talking about WIN calling all the shots here but doesn’t SCA (soon to be 7) actually run the broadcast side for TDT?

I am not familiar with the logistics of TDT but the licence is 50/50 so obviously any decision would have to be mutually agreed between WIN and SCA (soon Seven). But if one party wants out I don’t know what options are available to keep the licence going, if the second party has the ability to buy out the first, for instance? That may be in breach of broadcasting control laws to have two licences under one owner.

[Radio_TVGuy]

Yes SCA operates TDT via NPC Media, just like how they also did so (and is still happening at the moment) with Network 10’s ex-SCA stations in Southern NSW-ACT and Regional VIC/QLD.

[AddictedtoTV]

Yes but in the areas of these transmitters you can still usually get the signal of the other channels via another transmitter. So TDT would still be broadcasting to the entire state.

[Radio_TVGuy]

To clarify it better, in terms of Joint Ventures, WIN operated MDT (Mildura), SCA operates TDT (Tasmania), and WIN operates WDT (Regional WA). But Darwin’s DDT? Is the operations of that station controlled by SCA or the Nine Network?

[Radiohead]

Not necessarily, because it was apparently WIN’s decision to switch off Ten in Mildura.

[Willwalk]

@Radio_TVGuy

But Darwin’s DDT? Is the operations of that station controlled by SCA or the Nine Network?

Hmm as far as I can recaLL (I left Darwin in 2013) DDT 10 was controlled by SCA with 9 running sales I think. Because I remember before one sport channel arrived in Darwin it used to show a SCA loop of areas served by SCA 10 on 10 HD on DDT

[Radio_TVGuy]

@Radiohead

Not necessarily, because it was apparently WIN’s decision to switch off Ten in Mildura.

Yet WIN’s fade to a localised ad break was seen in the final shutdown of MDT, per @Casper.

Final Moments Of Mildura Digital Television - 30/6/24

[Moe]

@ando9185

We seem to be talking about WIN calling all the shots here but doesn’t SCA (soon to be 7) actually run the broadcast side for TDT? I believe it was WIN who ran MDT?

I assume both sides have to agree to any changes, but if WIN are saying “we won’t put any money in”, the other half isn’t going to pick up the entire tab to run Ten, so they can in effect make the decision.

Hence the wording being WIN “reviewing their involvement”, rather than the active press release with the Seven affiliates in their solus markets.

[Expensive_Horse5538]

@Willwalk

Hmm as far as I can recaLL (I left Darwin in 2013) DDT 10 was controlled by SCA with 9 running sales I think. Because I remember before one sport channel arrived in Darwin it used to show a SCA loop of areas served by SCA 10 on 10 HD on DDT

As of a few years ago Nine handled playout:

Ten (Darwin Digital Television)

7 Darwin are separate. SCA provides the staff and office on the ground for 10, Nine manages playout, technical and a lot of finances (SCA owes NTD about 2.9mil for the DDT operation so no money being made on SCA side). Most of the content decisions are being made locally by the GM - who I’ve heard is looking to exit the station soon anyway.