Ten News Content and Appearance

XMLTV also showing the same, i wonder if they supply Fetch and YourTV with guides?

The Australian is now again digging up the old “Ten is going to outsource it’s news” rumor (must be a quite week in the media if they are entertaining this again), claiming that:

  • At least two outlets so far are in the race
  • They would produce lunchtime, 5pm, and late news
  • Ten bosses are now working out how much they would pay to outsource
  • Ten only spends $35-$40m on news, other outlets say they could do the job for $15-25m

And of course, when listing the networks axed news shows of the past, there was the usual mention of the “woke nightly gibberfest” The Project :wink:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/tv-star-sonia-kruger-plots-exit-from-australia-as-seven-cuts-hit-shows/news-story/2358bbcc044011bd3c1df5d1a93d78b0

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I could see other areas of the network being outsourced. News is not one of them though, it would be bizarre

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Maybe they can outsource 10News+ to Roving :rofl:

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You’d wonder why they’re outsourcing the news given it’s the only thing that appears in the top 30 on some days. Not to mention imagine the quality of the news. There would be very little if any live crosses, no dynamic story telling or anything decent. You’d have some talking heads reading a few headlines off the wires and limited pre packaged reports.

As the Australian speculates, why would 10 bothering existing. Their parent company didn’t even see fit to place a bid on NRL rights.

It’s such a shame that commercial free to air will end up being just 7 and 9 and the limited shit they serve up daily. It’s really a disaster.

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For the side of politics that consistently tells the left to “it’s in the past, get over it”, they sure like to harp on about The Project! :wink:

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Yes but everything is a disaster with you.

To play devil’s advocate, Ten are never going to be the ‘news network’, are they better investing elsewhere and keeping a lite version of news outsourced. They’ve tried everything (almost) and it’s not clicked. This only works if they’ve got other investment coming though in other content.

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Are they though? A ‘lite/outsourced’ version of news would likely be unwatchable and further tank their ratings, adverting dollars and rest of the schedule.

As for ‘investing’ any savings. I imagine they’d pocket them if they weren’t absorbed by lost advertising dollars.

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If it isn’t local news might as well not bother. This isn’t New Zealand. People won’t watch it.

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Probably, yes but at some point there’s a tipping point between investment and ROI

If anything they would be best to outsource the reporters but still have it produced in house. In saying that in a lot of aspects 10 is the network that develops new talent to start their careers and then they get poached by other networks - so there is still a place for them.

At some point government needs to give consideration to the social licence of media companies to operate in this country (as well as media diversity and access to news). Paramount/Skydance is not struggling and is making decent $$$ from operating here.

I do not buy the argument that news is dead because FTA is declining, news needs to transition like everything else. Using the decline of FTA as an excuse to get out of the obligation to provide news is a bit smoke and mirrors.

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This I absolutely agree with.

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I don’t see any real issues with outsourcing, as long as it doesnt go to an existing player (Seven/Nine) and they meet whatever licence requirements exist.

Ten could offer a performance incentive to encourage quality, but the challenge would be that they’d need to have people watch it first.

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In principle I tend to agree but if the main aim of outsourcing is to save money then quality would suffer.

If the aim is to break union membership (eg: Qantas subsidiaries) then you could probably do it and maintain some sort of quality product if someone invested time and effort into a lot of oversight. But then, ethical issues aside, what would be the point given the shoestring 10 is already operating on and the associated reputational damage outsourcing would cause.

One model that might work is a collaboration with some of the independent media outlets but you don’t necessarily need to outsource to achieve that.

I would hope that if it is a choice to outsource, SBS would be a strong option for Ten - I’d expect that they would be running their whole operation near the costs of that outsource figure above, and be at least a unique perspective on news, and likely place Ten higher up the priority order than any of the other options would.

On the other hand - Paramount/Skydance will soon own CNN, that should get them amazing international coverage, they should be the local arm of CNN, including an Australian branded variant of the CNN home page/app - it’s free real estate, and a path to be a serious news source. At a minimum, Ten should hold off any decisions until their ownership shakes out and they know their future.

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There could be worse outcomes that 10 and CBS and other miscellaneous news all becoming part of the CNN ecosystem provided it is appropriately funded and resourced and Paramount not deciding to sell 10 down the track after gutting news.

10 could run CNN on a fast channel.

But isn’t Nine affiliates CNN?
Just like Seven affiliates NBC.

Does 10 rent it’s News studios (Sydney and Melbourne more so) out? It could be a little extra revenue stream for the network. I know Stuff/ThreeNews does in New Zealand.