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I have picked up Rebel from Banana during DX events and they were playing commercials for Biloela and they had a weather report that gave temps for Biloela (and Wide Bay).

That’s good to hear!

Pleased that Rebel/Breeze seem to be making a reasonable effort to be relevant to those local communities.

Yeah I didn’t hear the Goondiwindi relay on the hour so not sure about weather reports, but I did hear some ads, and don’t remember anything sounding out of place. In Stanthorpe I saw more advertising boards around town for the Rebel/Breeze stations as well, don’t recall seeing much if anything at all for any other stations

I’d be fairly sure the music is all networked as probably are the announcers, but I reckon they’d struggle without local ads, which I’m 99% sure they have (but you’ve put doubt in my mind now :blush: )

The other remote licence area broadcaster (8SAT, Flow FM) does not sub in local ads. I remember getting quite confused when I first picked up 106.3 from Healesville in Melbourne, at first I thought I had some exotic South Australian DX with all these regional SA businesses being advertised, until I realised it was just a relay

Rebel had a translator in Stanthorpe for years before any other broadcaster.

I have not listened to Flow on 106.3 but have listened to the other Victorian frequency 90.9 / 97.7 and 95.3 and they are all linked up and it is certainly a Victorian feed although you are right they still air a few local South Australian commercials but I think they are less regular than what they were a few years ago.

Picking up Adelaide FM stations via Skip yesterday made me wonder how necessary the fill in relay stations for “Adelaide Foothills” are. How necessary are they? What happens to the signal for the main Adelaide stations - is just drop out or a mess of multiplath signals?

Canberra FM stations have something similar with the relays at Tuggeranong, right?

The Tuggeranong relays only serve the southern edge of Canberra because Mt Taylor creates a blackspot for the main Black Mountain signals.

As for Adelaide, just from the coverage maps, it LOOKS like it’s because the main Mt Lofty signals “fly” over the outer suburbs to the east and south east that requires the Grenfell St relays operating from the CBD to “fill” in those suburbs.

Digital TV repeaters exist in both cases for the same reasons as well.

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Last time those Adelaide repeaters came up, someone mentioned that they are pretty much never used because no one is aware of them - stations don’t promote them, so people just put up with slightly bad reception.

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Glad they are, good on them

Nearest you’ll get is Tenterfield for 2TEN, Toowoomba for the commercials (Rebel Media, Gold Coast). None are based in Warwick.

Sounds like another good example of where Alternative Frequency as part of RDS would be beneficial, though probably not used.

It is used. All Adelaide Foothills services have AF running. Works great in cars, also in home if you attenuate the signal, will flick to Grenfell St translators. This was in Unley. Same in St Georges.

Goo to hear - just the commercials?

Only the commercials as SBSFM, JJJ & ABCFM do not have RDS operational from any site in Adelaide.

5MBS is licenced only for the Adelaide Foothills licence area, pop’n 667 093 & 506.1 km2 cf 1 158 187 & 5842 km2. It has no RDS.

I think Blair Sullivan is a disgraceful editor for Radio Today. I know he blocks comments to support the whims and wishes of his owners and the stations they receive money from for job ads.

The model is a conflicted one, taking money from the stations they should be writing about is always going to be a point of conflict.

Blair has blocked more comments being published than any previous editor. That said, he might receive more pressure from the owners than previous editors.

nickatnights is correct, ‘sites like Mumbrella publish lots of posts - most of them are really interesting takes on a story.
If RT does not want input from readers then they will lose readers in the longer term.’

Mumbrella has lots of freewheeling debate and most of it is respectful. When comments are allowed by RT, often there are numerous dribble quality comments of inside jokes that carry on for 5 - 15 comments and add nothing to the story, yet they are published.

Many in regional commercial radio, community radio in general and national broadcasters also find it difficult for Radio Today to publish news that they submit. They claim (and rightly so) a bias towards the metro, under 40 commercial stations and networks.

I hope Blair comes on here to defend himself and understand the constructive criticism but it seems from his online presence that he does not wish to engage.

I think we should have a discussion thread here, ‘mediawatch for media industry publications’. Keep the bastards (or otherwise) honest!

It’s the one great thing about mediaspy - the posts are instantaneous and (usually) on the mark.

If a radio station needs a bagging then this is the place!

In fact mediaspy is a good place to judge how a station is going in the market.

The Internet (and sites like mumbrella and mediaspy) gives a voice to the average punter. Radio Today gives a voice to a select few. Radio Today is a boring website.

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A response to a post in the Wollongong Radio thread:

Interestingly, 2GO and Sea FM on the Central Coast often air radio promos for Southern Cross Ten and no other TV stations (from my observations anyway) despite the fact that most of the region can’t receive SC10. On the flipside, I’m sure I remember hearing KOFM Newcastle air radio promos for Seven News Sydney and other programs on Prime7 in the past.

Of course here in Sydney, it’s generally a mix of radio promos from Seven, Nine (news promos for both Seven and Nine’s 6pm bulletins are often run on high rotation during drivetime radio in Sydney!) and Ten although I have heard the occasional radio promo for SBS World News on 2GB of all stations.

In any case, I’m a bit intrigued as to how the radio networks get their TV station promos delivered. Presumably in the case of general program promos they’re delivered to the radio networks in the same way that any other externally produced advertising would be, but what about the news promos? Do the radio networks receive promos for the news bulletins in a different way?

NBN put theirs on Soundcloud, don’t know if radio receives that way though.

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